The interview can be heard, for a limited time, here. Ms. Bartik is a fascinating, funny, and brilliant woman. I was especially struck to hear her tell of being informed by an executive at the old computer giant Honeywell, a company founded in part on her work, that she would never make vice-president (!) because she was too honest in appraising the company's products.
Honeywell has gone to the ash-heap of history, but Ms. Bartik lives on. God bless.