Just Tinkerin' And Thinkin'

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  1. David says:

    Popehat Signal shirt? Please?

  2. Darryl says:

    "Govern yourself accordingly!"

  3. Dan Gillson says:

    I think you should have Matt Inman illustrate something for the phrase, Murum aries attigit. The results would be hilarious, I'm sure.

  4. Louis says:

    Please, please make a "Popehat: Snort my Taint you Censorious Asshat" T-Shirt. I would buy that so fast.

  5. Nephilium says:

    I'll wait for the fear the ponies shirt…

  6. David says:

    We wouldn't want to risk confusion between "Popehat" and "Asshat". At least, not any more than usual.

  7. Dave Cannon says:

    I agree to these suggestions.

    I think either the ACLU or Electronic Frontier Foundation would be fitting organizations to support.

  8. Shane says:

    Please, please make a "Popehat: Snort my Taint you Censorious Asshat" T-Shirt. I would buy that so fast.

    This ^

    I don't know about the financial well being of your leeetal monster but please ensure that the pony you call popehat is in good financial shape, before you go all charity like.

    pweesse pweeese pweeese

  9. Bearman says:

    Any help I can offer, let me know

  10. Clark says:

    @Darryl

    "Govern yourself accordingly!"

    Seconded.

    @Dave Cannon

    I think either the ACLU or Electronic Frontier Foundation would be fitting organizations to support.

    Seconded.

  11. Jason says:

    I agree with Shane. Its your blog, people appear to be wanting shirts. Keep the money.

    You hear so many articles about how the internet "destroys" ways of making money, but then on the flip side people with internet sites seem to feel wrong about making money over the internet and always do this "give the proceeds to charity thing."

    Sell the shirts, keep the money. You've earned it.

  12. Chris says:

    I'll second "Govern yourself accordingly" and "Snort my taint you censorious asshat".

  13. Aaron W says:

    Needs more ponies.

  14. Sturdley says:

    "Popehat: protecting the world from the pony menace since 2005."

    I do hope you'll make a Via Angus shirt.

  15. Ernie Gordon says:

    I'll buy any popehat shirt once to be supportive, but I'll buy multiple copies of a popehat chatch-phrase shirt because I'm a fan.

  16. Roger Strong says:

    Suggested caption:
    "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all. – Noam Chomsky"

    Below, for extra revenue, put "I believe in freedom of expression for _____." Fill in the blanks with various names, and urge everyone to collect the whole set.

  17. mud man says:

    Popehat signal, yes. Angus Dei, yes. Kidlike wisenhammer stuff, more the better. Corporate logo look, umm, no.

  18. Walter says:

    I already own a T-shirt. I want a popehat!

  19. Dan says:

    Mark me down as another vote for Popehat pope hats.

  20. CJK Fossman says:

    @Walter, Dan

    Start here.

  21. Roger Strong says:

    "I wanted a pope hat, and I got was this stupid T-shirt."

    "Nolo contendere is for sissies"

  22. CJK Fossman says:

    Whiskey Tango Fox my anchor tag gives a "not found?"

    Maybe it was my bad. Try this

  23. CJK Fossman says:

    Never mind. I'm going home now.

  24. JoeNotCharles says:

    How about a Popehat Except For Clark shirt? I wouldn't want my choice of shirt to suggest that I broadly agree with every author who posts here.

  25. David says:

    You have to specify the protocol: "http://"

    Otherwise, your subdomain and domain info ("www.blah.edu") will be autohandled by the relative local linking facility in WordPress.

    I fixed it for you.

  26. Roger Strong says:

    There is no medical proof that chemical castration helps to prevent censorious asshat behavior, but with our out-of-court settlement we're not taking any chances.

  27. Allen says:

    What about a polo with just the popehat logo on the left breast? subtle, but something I could conceivably wear to work.

  28. slyde says:

    Printed on American Apparel please.

  29. Ken White says:

    Printed on American Apparel please.

    We'll probably decide based on quality, appearance, availability, and how it impacts the amount that goes to charity, but I will hear suggestions. But I find American Apparel's founder and advertising douchey.

  30. RKN says:

    I do hope you'll make a Via Angus shirt.

    Seconded.

    Maybe: "Have you seen Roy?"

  31. Clark says:

    @Ken White

    But I find American Apparel's founder and advertising douchey.

    Indeed.

    There's a blog post about how it's weird that American Apparel is so embraced by the hipster left, which would otherwise be appalled by the whole 1970's-rec-room-date-rape vibe of the company, founder, and ad campaign.

    …but it's not one I've got the time or energy to write.

  32. BaronLurk says:

    Multiple great suggestions.

    What about a polo with just the popehat logo on the left breast? subtle, but something I could conceivably wear to work.

    Seconded.
    Polos with pockest as an option, please.

  33. firehat says:

    I'd be more inclined to wear something with the bulk of the text on the back and just something small and off center on teh front, like on the breast. My gut doesn't need any visual accentuating.

  34. ChrisTS says:

    I like Allen's idea. Actually, I like them all, but I would drop the 'censorious asshat' bit. I want to actually wear the things I buy in public. (I think 'snort my taint' is odd enough to not be immediately problematic.)

  35. Clark says:

    @firehat

    I'd be more inclined to wear something with the bulk of the text on the back and just something small and off center on teh front, like on the breast. My gut doesn't need any visual accentuating.

    Ha! Said something much similar in private.

    Anyway: seconded.

  36. Clark says:

    @ChrisTS

    I like Allen's idea. Actually, I like them all, but I would drop the 'censorious asshat' bit. I want to actually wear the things I buy in public. (I think 'snort my taint' is odd enough to not be immediately problematic.)

    You hang around with classier folks than I do; I'd not be able to wear it because my people would get it.

  37. Sam says:

    Love the "Govern yourself accordingly!" idea.

    I'd also buy a "Rode to Popehat" shirt with a top-ten of the best searches on the back. I might be the only one, though…

  38. ZarroTsu says:

    How about a picture of a large tooth and dentistry instruments with a banner saying "UNCENSORED" underneath?

  39. Kevin says:

    How about "Govern yourself according to the vagueness in legal threats being the hallmark of the bumptious taint-snorting pony"

  40. Mercury says:

    A Popehat logo t-shirt will probably appear (to non-insiders) to represent some sort of Catholic youth league type organization. I mean, what would your first impression be at 20 paces?

    So, you could either just let that ride or have some sort of additional explanatory graphic. “Law, Liberty, Leisure” is helpful I guess although it seems like it would be appropriate for the Popehat motto to have the word “pontificate” in it.

    Or maybe just skip the t-shirt altogether and instead order up some Popehat fur suits. The advantage here is that the medium would be the message – not much room for branding confusion.

  41. Tali McPike says:

    I think some quotes from the Global Wildlife Center's freak out would provide excellent fodder for T-shirts. "You are Libel" and "let's DP this all legal" immediately come to mind.

  42. Kevin says:

    I always like the understated almost "insiders only" type of shirt. For example, the xkcd.com shirt that just has the stick figure man (cueball) without anything else is nice.

    I would be in favor of the popehat logo and maybe the phrase "Govern Yourself Accordingly" with nothing else.

    I get that people may not understand, but for me that is kinda the point. This way I don't feel like a billboard, but others who read the blog will recognize it.

  43. Clark says:

    @Kevin

    I would be in favor of the popehat logo and maybe the phrase "Govern Yourself Accordingly" with nothing else.

    This, centered over the left chest, is my favorite idea.

    @Tali McPike

    "You are Libel"

    LOL. Yes, this phrase is as good as "Govern Yourself Accordingly".

  44. I am for simple logo/URL on the front, more complicated on the back. (Is this a mullet or a T-shirt?)

    I would recommend against text on a curve for it though. For many of us, any text will likely curve due to body shape to the point that we might not want any additional emphasis on that.

  45. azteclady says:

    If I may, I second the idea of funds going first to Popehat, with whatever is over costs to EFF or ACLU.

    And frankly, whatever you decide to put on it, I'll be getting one :grin:

  46. Nik Clayton says:

    http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/T-shirts#T-shirt_designs has some things to keep in mind, which look particularly relevant for the second design posted.

  47. mcalex says:

    There's will be more than one, won't there?

  48. Michael K. says:

    collectumque premens mea labe

    (Warning: My Latin comes from Google Translate, and may be wronger than wrong.)

  49. Michael K. says:

    (It seems "labe" is "taint" in the sense of "stain." I guess "perineum" would retain more of the original meaning.)

  50. Alan W. says:

    Two suggestions:

    (1) The availability of a 4XL would be huge! (get it?)
    (2) A picture of Ken on the back with a word bubble with the writing:
    "I'm Ken White, and I approved this message."

  51. David says:

    @Nik Clayton

    http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/T-shirts#T-shirt_designs has some things to keep in mind, which look particularly relevant for the second design posted.

    Thanks for mentioning this. For the persons of feminine phenotype among us: what are your preferences about logo placement and garment cut? (Feel free to email anyone at Popehat privately (firstname@popehat) if you prefer not to comment on this in the thread.)

  52. Ken White says:

    For myself, I will only note that snark is slimming.

  53. Marconi Darwin says:

    A Popehat cap that says "First!" right below the logo.

  54. Gardner says:

    I would dearly like to see a popehat signal one.

    That said, I have worked up artwork for a one-off tee using the popehat logo and just the web site address. Never got around to printing it though.

    It might make sense for popehat to do up a set of designs and put them on zazzle. No need to fiddle with actual stock or anything, and if folks want them printed on aprons or panties or whatever, it's up to them.

  55. Kilroy says:

    How about a "Team Clark" shirt?

  56. Ken White says:

    yes, working on Popehat signal ones.

  57. azteclady says:

    David and Nik Clayton:

    Thank you, a thousand times, for thinking of this–I was already thinking about wearing mine for sleeping/vegging, but if you guys offer fitted t-shirts, I'll be very very happy (and proud!) to wear it, you know, in public!

    On that note, small/smallish logo high on the left front (could it be just a tad higher than what it looks like in the one pictured?) and some of the many memorable quotes in the back, would be great.

  58. Tali McPike says:

    My opinion as a female: Placement of text and stuff doesn't matter on a male/unisex shirt, but I'm more likely to wear only around the house (or buy it a size or two larger & wear it as a night shirt). I would love a fitted shirt, however I not a huge fan of text across the chest (it can get awkward for everyone). images/logos are less of a problem…unless of course you are printing it with two popehats: one over each breast.

  59. Clark says:

    @Kilroy

    How about a "Team Clark" shirt?

    Didn't Groucho Marx have a quote about that?

  60. Anne says:

    As a female, seconded.

    I think The Bloggess is a good model for t-shirts and other things. I adore my mug with Beyonce on it that is entirely safe for work. Most people don't get it – I try to befriend the ones who do. I would gladly do the same thing with Popehat swag.

  61. Cunning Pam says:

    Second, third, whatever, to: Super large sizes, "Snort my taint", "You are libel", and "Govern yourself accordingly!"

  62. Bill says:

    I'll buy whatever you have, but i second the Govern Yourself Accordingly idea, and propose on where Ken photoshopped the super evil pony with the big eye on it

  63. Votre says:

    Possibly also offer the blue design in black with a white collar. Then we could look like clergy when wearing it.

  64. JTG says:

    I agree to these suggestions.

    I think either the ACLU or Electronic Frontier Foundation would be fitting organizations to support.

    I think that both of these sound great. In addition, along the same lines, there is the Center for Democracy and Technology.

  65. barry says:

    Is there any particular @popehat.com email account to submit pictures etc without spamming individual bloggers emails? (ok, there's a cat in it…)

  66. JTG says:

    @Sam:

    Love the "Govern yourself accordingly!" idea.

    I'd also buy a "Rode to Popehat" shirt with a top-ten of the best searches on the back. I might be the only one, though…

    I second this idea. I would wear it just to see how other people would react.

  67. CJK Fossman says:

    @David

    Thank you. I thought it was something like that.

    Groklaw's preview button was nice for a typo prone guy like me.

  68. eddie says:

    For some reason, I am moderately uncomfortable wearing t-shirts that have designs on the back. Some shirts – notably, concert shirts – seem to be okay with me, perhaps because the designs on the back are minimal and incidental compared to the grotesqueries of awesomeness that adorn their fronts. But contra what Clark and others have said, I would prefer not to have a small and simple design on the front and a larger design, or even just text, on the back. I like simple designs on the front. I like large designs on the front. I don't like the one (or nothing) on front with the other on back.

    I think it has something to do with the balance of mental attention; when I think about a shirt I'm wearing, I want to be thinking about its front, not its back. Probably also has something to do preferring to sit with my back to the wall in restaurants.

    I'm not likely to buy a Popehat shirt, so this isn't a request or demand. But I am curious to know if anyone else feels this way.

  69. Zeeblebrox says:

    I prefer just the logo and little to no text if possible (I find that it's a more effective marketing tactic than just advertising the website in text.)

    For example:

    Person A: "What the heck are you wearing? Is that a pope hat?"

    Person B: "Why yes, it is! It's from this crazy, eclectic, brilliant blog that discusses law, liberty, and the pursuit of ponies."

  70. Ben says:

    I like the idea of a plain polo with just the Popehat logo. And I'd buy one with a number of these ideas, though it would be nice to have text printed on the back. Perhaps some variation of: "Vagueness in legal threats is the hallmark of meritless thuggery"

  71. SassQueen says:

    XX phenotype over here.

    I'm okay with text on the front or back of a shirt. I usually buy men's sizes in tees b/c women's sizes tend to be to short in the length for me.

    "You are libel" is my personal favorite in-joke, as long as we are voting here. I think a variety of options would be good, with all the various catch phrases. I would be intrigued by a polo with the small popehat embroidered in the place of the usual polo-pony.

  72. ChrisTS says:

    @Clark:

    Well, maybe not better company but stuffier? I think 'snort my taint' clearly indicates something provocative, but I did not know what 'taint' meant until I looked it up a while back.

  73. AlphaCentauri says:

    I'd probably go for a mug. I've got lots more casual t-shirts than I have social occasions for wearing them. Wearing an obscure design to the supermarket (where no one is going to know or ask what it means) isn't an attractive an idea to me.

  74. Carl says:

    Any chance of a series of shirts with different quotes? My favorite would be "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it", written by Evelyn Beatrice Hall about Voltaire's beliefs (and subsequently widely mis-attributed to Voltaire himself).

    Also +1 on a subtle logo on the chest, much more wearable than the second design.

  75. Mark - Lord of the Albino Squirrels says:

    "You are Libel" is my favorite so far.

    Haven't seen anybody suggest a Malshandir ointment "advertisement" yet.
    Maybe on a coffee mug like many pharmaceutical adds?

  76. Beryl says:

    I'd just been considering some of the perils of women's t-shirts when I read this, so I thought I'd mention a few things I've noted.

    Sizing of women's t-shirts is even wonkier than women's sizing in general. Many vendors don't seem to sell a normal women's t-shirt: they sell "baby doll" or "girlie" shirts. These are apparently sized to be skin-tight. Someone who does not want that look may have to size up multiple sizes. Thus, while I normally wear a small or medium, I've bought baby dolls in XL and wished I'd bought XXL.

    If the artwork is prominent and on the front, I don't want a fitted style anyway.

    I personally mostly buy straight-sided shirts mostly because I buy for the design and want it to show well, but also because I find a slightly tunic-y fit is most versatile for athletics. In this, I know I'm part of a largish minority of women.

  77. Mark - Lord of the Albino Squirrels says:

    Maybe some socks?

    Specifically, at least one sock with a picture of "a shape that looks like the shape on the close barn" where Angus sleeps?

    That way, if any of us run into Roy or the dark voice they could recognize friends of Angus and tell us the truth of Roy.

  78. J@m3z Aitch says:

    I'd buy. And if you're thinking of a charity, wouldn't it make sense to support legal work defending free speech, etc.?

  79. Nicko says:

    Snort my Taint.

  80. En Passant says:

    Ken White wrote Sep 16, 2013 @9:35 am:

    But I find American Apparel's founder and advertising douchey.

    Regardless of logo designs and mottoes, I can highly recommend one vendor. A nonprofit organization that I've worked with for more 24 years has happily done business with them for that time. The organization doles out large quantities (many thousands per year) of custom printed T-shirts, with constantly changing graphic designs and colors, as well as other swag.

    Century Graphics in Sunnyvale, CA.

    URL: http://www.cgshirts.com/

    You may find their client list pretty impressive too.

  81. Justin Kittredge says:

    I second via Angus with "Have you seen Roy?" underneath, that's a pretty good one. With text of your choosing on the back.

    I actually thought of a parody of the Jesus riding a Dinosaur meme that can be seen on the internets (mistake on purpose) and thought I'd shoot the idea out there of Clark Kent riding Angus the Bull.

    If you don't know what I am talking about;
    http://www.6dollarshirts.com/product.php?productid=11359#detailed

    And:
    http://2.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/12/19/4e372dfc5b8a6e5772a3cfb21d2a3165-jesus-with-a-dinosaur-6.jpg

    So it is similar idea, except it is Clark riding a Male Bovine and not Jesus riding a Dinosaur. Clark should have one arm raised. Then on the back you could have "Law, Liberty, Leisure" and directly below "www.popehat.com" I am not a huge fan of the Popehat logo honestly.

    If you don't like that Clark has grabbed center stage, you could do a representation of all the bloggers riding the same rather abnormally large, possibly rearing Angus Bull? Ken waving a cowboy hat and the rest with one raised arm? That's a rather packed Bovine back.

    Funny shirts I should think would sell, be noticed, and start conversations.

  82. sorrykb says:

    Sturdley wrote:

    I do hope you'll make a Via Angus shirt.

    Via Angus should have an entire clothing line. But nothing leather.

    And I'm with Ken (and Clark) on American Apparel. Founder is beyond douchey. As for their advertising… I have no words. Well, OK, I have a few words: Objectifying. Degrading. Creepy. And some of the models look awfully young. Which ties in to all three of those words.

    P.S. for Clark: Many of us on the left find American Apparel appalling. But then I'm not a hipster. For one, my t-shirts aren't vintage — They're just old. (Which is another reason we need Popehat t-shirts!) And I'd be too old myself even if I did have the right t-shirts. I think some of my friends might be hip. But not hipsters. Or hamsters.

  83. Via Angus says:

    I have a tag in my ear, but it looks like mud.

  84. Bob Brown says:

    I'll buy at least one. My preference is for something I can wear in public around the over-50 set and that won't embarrass me if my neighbors' small children see it.

  85. Noah Callaway says:
    I would be in favor of the popehat logo and maybe the phrase "Govern Yourself Accordingly" with nothing else.

    This, centered over the left chest, is my favorite idea.

    Thirded.

    Also, I won't be mad if you keep some of the profits. My vote would be at least keep enough profit off to cover any costs that the Amazon affiliate program isn't covering.

  86. Kevin says:

    Via Angus should have an entire clothing line. But nothing leather.

    Are you KIDDING? Leather would make it SO much better!!

    PS – Is Via Angus an actual person? Like, IRL? Or an alter ego of one of the other Popehat co-bloggers? And is anyone ever going to clarify the identity of the Dark Voice? Inquiring minds want to know.

  87. Rich says:

    Small popehat on front with a pocket for Pens and slide ruler im not kidding I need a pocket. On the back a pony wearing a Popehat with Popehat written on the saddle. In the backgroung the popehat signal. Or ponies pulling the popehat signal light on a cart.

  88. Jack B. says:

    Popehat.Bowling.Shirts.

  89. Clark says:

    @Jack B.

    Popehat.Bowling.Shirts.

    Bowling shirts are not the issue.

  90. Jack B. says:

    Bowling shirts are not the issue.

    Clark, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules.

  91. Aaron says:

    I second the call for a Popehat Signal shirt, maybe with the old Popehat Signal design. And add FIRE to the list of charities I'd be glad to support by buying Popehat clothing.

  92. wgering says:

    +1 for "Govern Yourself Accordingly"

    Also, did the site briefly undergo a radical change in appearance, or did I buy the wrong kind of mushrooms again?

  93. Jim Tyre says:

    Clark, what would you trade me for one of the (very limited edition) EFF DEF CON tees from a few months ago?

    http://gizmodo.com/can-you-solve-the-encryption-puzzle-in-the-effs-def-co-1027785435

    (Yes, the puzzle has been solved.)

  94. Jim Tyre says:

    (Ignore, just forgot to tick the notify of follow up comments box)

  95. Dion starfire says:

    Ummm, fair warning about insider jokes on the t-shirts (if you decide to do that): you will get pestered to do a post explaining all the inside jokes available on shirts, and that've appeared more than twice (by different people, of course) in the comments.

  96. nlp says:

    I'd love to have a t-shirt with Ken's "ShutUpShutUpShutUpShutUp" on it, but it would lead to too many misunderstandings.

    Another possible recipient of funds might be FIRE (Foundation for Individual Rights in Education).

  97. princessartemis says:

    XX phenotype chiming in to say that I prefer to wear straight cut T-shirts and would not wear one with text under my breasts as the second picture looks like it might be. The first mock up is pretty good.

  98. ChrisTS says:

    Bob Brown • Sep 16, 2013 @7:13 pm

    "I'll buy at least one. My preference is for something I can wear in public around the over-50 set and that won't embarrass me if my neighbors' small children see it."

    So, a vote for "Snort my taint, you censorious asshat"?

  99. Myk says:

    I just can't get these damn tags right! (Can someone delete that previous one?) http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv64/barmanmyk/BigLeagues.jpg

  100. bralex says:

    OT: I too want to hear more from Via Angus. If there is more material than the 3 posts I'd be interested. /OT

    I personally would buy a tasteful, low key shirt with "govern yourself," and a second with just about anything wild on it e.g. "snort."

  101. Via Angus says:

    I am a bull. I am slow at type. Have you tried to type with a hoof?

  102. bralex says:

    no, but I think that would describe my dancing pretty well!

  103. Sam says:

    I'd like to see something like this (if I can get the link posting right…) on a fitted cut:
    http://bit.ly/1boPav0

    And yes, babydoll cuts are often annoying for ladies, as they are often too short and result in a midriff. While American Apparel may be a terrible company, they had excellent fitted cut shirts when they supplied for shirt.woot. So, something like their shirt style may fit those who prefer fitted shirts better.

    Also, might I suggest tote bags?

  104. Sam says:

    Ruh-roh, there are two of me. Looks like Gizmo got in the water…

    I will almost certainly buy a t-shirt (my favorite souvenir) and would probably spring for a coffee mug if those were available.

    Also, this might be too obscure, but a tee with the phrase "I Am Not A Lawyer, but…" could be fun.

  105. Mark S says:

    A t-shirt is a good idea.

    A polo shirt: think of the ponies.

  106. WDS says:

    Speaking of playing around. For a little while last night the site had a different look. More modern, but distracting for me. Are revised looks for the site being considered as well.

  107. JLA Girl says:

    I appreciate the concern for the XX crowd. It's not an issue I've given a lot of thought to, but I mainly buy large for T-Shirts and have abandoned much chance of fitted working out for me. Now I know what to look for, so thanks for that everyone!

    Also: mugs. Can we have mugs too? Because my work place is anti-slogan on T-Shirts (seriously, there's a dress code policy — no slogans) and, dammit, I want some Popehat at work products!

  108. David says:

    @WDS,
    Yes, we'll be rocking a new theme soon(ish).

  109. Anonymous Lurker says:

    MEMBER: Vast Popehat Conspiracy
    Please XXL sizes!

  110. Dion starfire says:

    Considering our founder is a manatee doctor* I think Gabriel Iglesias' (the comedian) policy of m-5x on sizes might be appropriate (I could do fine with a L or MT, but I'm well to the skinny side of the distribution)

    *and all this time I've been thinking you were a lawyer, you d*mn dirt-free, ape marine biologist.

  111. Henrik T. says:

    This is so wrong. It should not be T-shirts, but suits.

    Popehat is a lawyer site. Lawyers. Wear. Suits.

    Wear them in court and if the opposing counsel is not wearing a Popehat suit it's a fine basis for intimidation: "No Popehat suit? Against the first amendment, are we? Opposed to free speech?"

  112. wgering says:

    @Henrik T.: I'm too broke for a Popehat suit, but I would absolutely rock a Popehat lapel pin on my current suit.

  113. Dion starfire says:

    It'd be a rather interesting addition at a place (like TGIFridays) where the servers where a bunch of different pins and patches ("pieces of flair" for the Office Space fans)

  114. Ollie says:

    I would scrounge together what I can for popehat t-shirts. I could get away with wearing a "Snort my taint" t-shirt on campus.

  115. Bill says:

    Tee shirts nice, mugs better.

  116. Jeff Johnson says:

    I'd buy any shirt Popehat would offer at this point. As mentioned in the previous comments, something acceptable to wear to court would be even better, should the need arise.

  117. barry says:

    I like the "where's Roy?" plastic ear tags.

  118. Dr. Bubbles says:

    Tinkerin's all right, but you misspelled Thinkerin'.

  119. J.R. Ford says:

    In the business of imprinting and selling tees.

    If you want bang for your buck, you must include your url somewhere. I would like to suggest a simple popehat logo on the front, left chest with the url beneath.

    The back could contain famous, or infamous, quotes. However, I would like to suggest, "First Amendment Rights Trump Butthurt!"

    Just my two pennies.

  120. Ms. Cats Meow says:

    How about a pony wearing a popehat teamed with any of the aforementioned taglines?

  121. Kalgalath says:

    I like the designs, but I think that new Popehat Signal image you have on the more recent post would make an even better design. But thats because I prefer 'silly' t-shirt design rather than just simple logos.

  122. wgering says:

    I'd also be in favor of a plain shirt with, "IANAL" in big letters on the front.

    Not applicable to many here, but I appreciate the double-entendre. And someone says it in just about every thread.

  123. wgering says:

    Ooh! Please please please do a shirt that has the Popehat Signal image (the new one) with, "You can't stop the signal" under it.

    All proceeds go toward fighting censorious asshats.

    I would buy the shit out of that shirt.

  124. Glitto says:

    Another vote for a dignified, discreet look, for polos, for no text on the back, and if you offered both "Govern yourself accordingly" and "You are libel" I'd buy both.

    Oh, there is one text-on-the-back I'd buy: I EAT PASTE, preferably in a childlike scrawl, covering some scratched-out, illegible comments.

  125. Ken White says:

    I'm happy people are interested.

    Issues:

    1. CustomInk has the best designer function so far I have seen.

    2. But we want something with a store function like CafePress. Don't want to deal with fulfillment, and want to sell multiple items. Unimpressed with Cafepress' designer.

  126. Jon says:

    Haven't got first-hand experience (with any of the sites), but you might look at zazzle.com.

  127. Elizabeth says:

    I third (fourth?) the vote for a mug, please. I love mugs at work.

    For mug, shirt or whatever – if using the Popehat logo, please include text so it doesn't look like I'm in a church group. It would be awesome too if the item is NOT made by some sort of under-paid labor; I would pay more for this if it were an option.

    And as a side note, ear tags are excellent luggage tags – just combine with a small ball/beaded chain. When all those black bags come rolling down into baggage claim, mine is the one with the giant yellow ear tag. I have another tag on my rolling briefcase, because I'm cool like that. Yeeha. (With thanks to a wonderful client that manufactures ear tags.)

    This was probably more than you needed to know, but thank you for asking!

  128. Ken White says:

    Just so you know, behind the scenes, we are looking at these factors:

    1. I like CustomInk's design web app; some other sites' apps aren't as good.

    2. Looking for decent quality and variety and price.

    3. Looking for something that lets you set up a storefront or otherwise acts as a fulfillment house. I can't say "taint" a lot if I'm stuffing envelopes with your shirts all day.

  129. Jim Tyre says:

    I can't say "taint" a lot if I'm stuffing envelopes with your shirts all day.

    Isn't that what associates are for?

  130. Clark says:

    @Jim Tyre

    Clark, what would you trade me for one of the (very limited edition) EFF DEF CON tees from a few months ago?

    What have I got that you might want?

    Shoot.

    I just remembered that I had a pretty cool shirt from a cryptography and security group at a startup you might have heard of: black embroidery on black polo shirt (hah!). …but I think I tossed it a few years ago.

  131. Clark says:

    @JoeNotCharles

    How about a Popehat Except For Clark shirt?

    I like the idea; I'd buy one myself to wear around town.

    c.f.

  132. Trevor says:

    I love the ideas so far, and don't have anything of value to add to those. But I will register one vote AGAINST a polo shirt. Just because I don't like or wear polo shirts. Actually I hate them with a passion that no article of clothing deserves.

  133. AlphaCentauri says:

    1. CustomInk has the best designer function so far I have seen… Unimpressed with Cafepress' designer.

    I wouldn't make any big decisions based on that. You have lots of folks following you who have access to graphics programs to create the design. Then any printer can produce them and sell them (on Amazon!) Assume you're going to sell several hundred of a single design, and then look at the costs from that point of view. It's worth paying the setup costs up front to have a lower per-item cost in the long run.

    Sites like CafePress are designed for single items or small runs, to be printed on demand. They fold the set up costs into the per-item prices, so it's reasonable for a few items, but becomes outrageous if you're really selling a lot.

  134. Delvan says:

    I'm going to step outside of the shirt box.

    A censorious asshat of choice on the rear, "Let's DP this all legal" up front, and "snort my taint" on the undercarriage. Yes, I'm talking about Popehat underwear.

    Oversized erasers or bottles of white-out marked with "You are libel!" on them.

    I also second "Welcome to the big leagues" and "Govern yourself accordingly" printed on just about any sort of clothing.

  135. Justin Kittredge says:

    This started off as me just checking out the CustomInk site and a bit of a joke. After missing part of Survivor and having a bit of a laugh with it, I thought I'd share the end result. It does not convey seriousness.

    http://www.customink.com/designs/clarkcow4/nrr0-000w-yw9b/share/?pc=EMAIL-40778&cm_mmc=share-_-emailb-_-preheader1-_-end

    And a slightly less colorful one:
    http://www.customink.com/designs/clarkcow3/nrr0-000w-yvxb/share/?pc=EMAIL-40778&cm_mmc=share-_-emailb-_-button-_-end

    Besides Clark's face everything is clip art from the site. I should think Clark Kent is changed enough as to not be Clark Kent. But I am not a lawyer (Ahar har?) I hope at least one person enjoys it. A real graphic design person would be better. This shirt only works with lighter colors.

  136. Crunchback says:

    I'm ready to buy, but please, make sure they come in large sizes: I'm a 4XL.

  137. Justin Kittredge says:

    I was still bored. Re-sized the design down to something less loud. Seems limited to sports grey to me though.

    http://www.customink.com/designs/clangus2/nrr0-000w-yyyk/hotlink?pc=HL-76684&cm_mmc=hotlink-_-3-_-Body_txt-_-button1

  138. Justin Kittredge says:

    I made a version were Angus is suitably fatter. And now I think I have had enough. If you feel like altering it go ahead I do not mind.

    http://www.customink.com/designs/clangus5/nrr0-000w-yzx4/hotlink?pc=HL-76684&cm_mmc=hotlink-_-3-_-Body_txt-_-button1

    I had an idea to make just one angelic cow with wings and some kind of halo of light or something, soaring through the clouds and that would've been Roy, with caption "Have you seen Roy?" but I didn't feel like it.

  139. Darryl says:

    Clark seconded my "Govern Yourself Accordingly!" idea. Given that Clark has now agreed with me, I think the universe will now collapse back into itself.

  140. Justin Kittredge says:

    Damn. Nobody liked that last shirt? =(
    Well here I made a nice logical shirt that I KNOW everyone can get behind! It really captures the essence of Popehat. Enjoy!

    http://www.customink.com/lab?cid=nrr0-000x-09qd

    (sometimes a joke happens)

  141. AlphaCentauri says:

    The advantage of mugs over shirts is that you can have a single run printed, shipped to a fulfillment center like Amazon, and let it go on autopilot until you need to make more. No need to keep up with how many shirts are left from which size, and no need to print such small quantities that your fixed prices are higher.

  142. Dead or In Jail says:

    Hi, I absolute luuurve Popehat (you can tell by the unconventional spelling I used in writing the verb) but there's a problem with your name: the t-shirts are going to appear as if they are for some sort of gratuitously anti-Catholic website.

    I know that there is accompanying text that ought to disabuse people of this incorrect notion but it's important to remember that people, on the whole, are stupid, lazy, and superficial. (Especially me.)

  143. karl says:

    Love the large hat but not so fussy about the typography. I'd also drop the www. Would be fun to wear this this at the gym.

  144. Douglas Muth says:

    I like the one with the small logo on the breast. It's subtle, but something that fellow readers would recognize. It'd totally order one.