In The Name Of Science, A Contest

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We've been asked by Dr. Robert Newsome, the leading researcher of internet rage, to assist in his work chronicling the predicted double explosion coming from the Supreme Court's ruling on the consolidated Affordable Care Act cases, and the vote by the House of Representatives on whether to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt.

And we're asking you to help.

Your mission is to help us find the most egregious example of hysterical, shrieking outrage, or smug, gloating condescension, produced on the World Wide Web today.

The contest opens today at 10:30 a.m., eastern time. It closes 24 hours later.

To make an entry, leave one link in comments. Multiple links may trigger our spam filter, even for veteran commenters. If you have multiple nominees, leave a comment for each.

The authors of this site will judge all links submitted. In general, more prominent websites and writers will be given more credit, but that doesn't mean that the archliberal or archconservative guy who frequents the "politics and other stuff" section of your gardening forum cannot win. More than prominence, we want bitching and whining. More than thoughtful analysis, we want predictions of DOOM for the American republic, or a holocaust for women, minorities, the poor, and children.

For this reason, entries from Andrew Sullivan, Paul Krugman, Debbie Schlussel, and Rush Limbaugh are automatically disqualified. That would be making it easy.

The prize for winning this contest will be a new DVD of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, shipped directly to you by Amazon, the deluxe edition if we can get it.

For this reason, you must leave a valid email address with your comment, i.e., not nobody@noneofyourbusiness.com. If you win, we will contact you for a shipping address.  You do not need to tell us your real name. We're perfectly happy shipping the dvd to, to pick an example of a pseudonymous commenter who lurks here, SPQR, but we have to know how to get in touch with SPQR.

No one with author privileges at Popehat is eligible for the prize, even past authors who haven't written here for four years, nor are their spouses and significant others.

Good luck, and happy hunting!

Update: The judges have spoken!

 

Last 5 posts by Patrick Non-White

195 Comments

195 Comments

  1. Adam  •  Jun 28, 2012 @5:23 am

    here's my entry, from just last week:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS3rR5N5vAA

    Rachel Maddow explains the Fast & Furious Scandal

  2. Patrick  •  Jun 28, 2012 @5:38 am

    Sorry Adam, to win you have to submit something written or recorded after the Supreme Court rules on health care, or Holder is/is not held in contempt.

  3. Adam  •  Jun 28, 2012 @5:39 am

    Curses! Foiled again!

  4. CTrees  •  Jun 28, 2012 @6:03 am

    I'm going to assume 4chan /pol/ is also out of bounds…

  5. GDad  •  Jun 28, 2012 @6:04 am

    Can we create our own hysterical screed and then submit it? Just trying to be creative.

  6. Chris Sherlock  •  Jun 28, 2012 @6:04 am

    If SPQR is the same spqr on Hacker News, I've been trying to tell him for a while now that he's hellbanned. He needs to create a new account on HN.

  7. Scott Jacobs  •  Jun 28, 2012 @6:11 am

    What about a poster's spouse's significant other? :)

  8. Patrick  •  Jun 28, 2012 @6:28 am

    I have no idea if he's the same person Chris Sherlock, but thank you for the public service announcement, to the dozens of people who use the handle SPQR on the internet.

    GDad, not that you would, but if we catch anyone submitting self-created content in an attempt to game this important scientific work, we'll hellban that person.

  9. Turk  •  Jun 28, 2012 @6:30 am

    I pre-emptively nominate whatever Ann Coulter's keyboard vomits up.

  10. perlhaqr  •  Jun 28, 2012 @6:37 am

    Awwww, man. This means I'm going to have to log into Facebook this month. I predict the butthurt will be mighty, there.

  11. Christopher  •  Jun 28, 2012 @6:49 am

    I'm not really going to enter, because reading comments usually kills my entire will to live, but I'm gonna go ahead and give a hint to anyone lost….ANY yahoo article. Any single one of them. It's like where civilization goes to die over there.

  12. ZK  •  Jun 28, 2012 @7:31 am

    I don't think this is worthy of entry, but for five minutes, CNN.com's headline read:

    "The Supreme Court has struck down the individual mandate."

    They've finally corrected it, to read the opposite, just about at the time of this post.

  13. Kent Allard  •  Jun 28, 2012 @7:39 am

    Cons: You failed on repealing ObamaCare. At least you can focus back on your Fast & Furious witch hunt?

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AoP33yKwUSesceJzu.EPwNjY7BR.;_ylv=3?qid=20120628073533AAb9xg4

  14. CTrees  •  Jun 28, 2012 @7:49 am

    @ZK: "CNN REPORTS! DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN!"

  15. Beth  •  Jun 28, 2012 @7:54 am
  16. Foster Wike  •  Jun 28, 2012 @7:57 am

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/28/politics/supreme-court-health-ruling/index.html?section=cnn_latest

    the artical it self is fine but the comments are well yeah…

    Quote from comments

    -SayHi2YourMom4Me Collapse

    I hope the law passes.
    -brain421

    Why? So the government can take money out of the pockets of the poor? If the government can make you buy healthcare they can make you do ANYTHING.

  17. sta  •  Jun 28, 2012 @8:02 am
  18. Dave Ruddell  •  Jun 28, 2012 @8:05 am

    Dammit, I was just about to post Shapiro's tweet…

  19. Grifter  •  Jun 28, 2012 @8:05 am

    Both from lovely Yahoo! (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/supreme-court-issue-obamacare-decision-135554880.html):

    "You idiots, the supreme court just upheld indentured servitude or slavery, a tax for breathing is illegal!! Sorry!!! This is where it starts!! The u.s.a. Freedom does not exist anymore!!"

    and

    "If citizens are now forced to buy health insurance, whats next? Can it not be seen that govt can now make us by big ticket items every couple of years to benefit 'the economy', or pay for a new house for poor illegal Pedro in 'fairness'. The productive will begin to flee this wretched country, no longer home of the free, but rather the home of the slave. Obamaslaves.

    Looking for an exit."

  20. meep  •  Jun 28, 2012 @8:11 am

    From a co-blogger:
    http://www.conservativecommune.com/2012/06/screwed

    I want to direct your attention to the end of the post.

    "Me, I’m taking the rest of the day off. As an old libertarian I mourn for the freedom we just lost. It is another reason, in a long, long line of them, to clean that cesspool of Washington DC out. And, frankly, perhaps it is time we contemplated bolder measures.

    Sorry … but this ruling all but guarantees the twilight of a great experiment. It lasted over 200 years, but it is definitely in its nadir now. This only accelerates the decline. We’ve just put ourselves in the same place as Europe, and we see who gloriously that’s going, don’t we?

    Wow, just wow."
    Looking at the prior submission, I guess not up there, but I imagine the libertarians will be the most bummed.

  21. Grifter  •  Jun 28, 2012 @8:11 am

    I think I can pull all mine just from that one Yahoo! link!

    This one may not be contest-worthy, but it's just so classy:

    "obummer is a joke and needs to go… and his gorilla wife needs to be deported to mexico so we dont have to look at her ugly face anymore."

  22. Kelly  •  Jun 28, 2012 @8:21 am

    "We are now officialy slaves to the Federal Government. You will never earn money for yourself as your wages are taxed. You will never own your own property since they can take it if you don't pay taxes. And you could now essentially be jailed if you do not pay the "Penalty" "tax" or whatever for not having Insurance. And the Government, and their Insurance Corporation friends win again."

    From comments here: http://www.bostonherald.com/business/healthcare/view.bg?articleid=1061142069&format=comments&cnum=1

  23. goddessmer  •  Jun 28, 2012 @8:23 am
  24. Nicholas Weaver  •  Jun 28, 2012 @8:28 am

    Wow… Its actually probably good for the contest, since we want big names, not little names, and the big-name liberals are usually to weak and spineless to let out more than a "uhh, khan?" anyway.

    I think probably the best, for sheer irony value, will be the Romney Camp's inevitable 1.5 Khan reply, since the individual mandate, the community ratings, and all those other things upheld by the court were taken from the Romney Taxachusis plan.

  25. Joe Pullen  •  Jun 28, 2012 @8:36 am

    "Anyone know a good witch doctor? It's the only care that will be available when it's all said and done."

    Zach Martin • Top Commenter • Works at Ron Paul Revolution

    Found here: http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/06/Supreme-Court-rules-on-Obama-health-care-plan-718037/1

  26. Jober  •  Jun 28, 2012 @8:38 am

    Patrick Gaspard must earn some sort of efficiency award for needing only 3 words and 30 characters to be a pompous jagwagon.

  27. Grifter  •  Jun 28, 2012 @8:38 am

    Sarah Palin's Twitter:

    "Obama lied to the American people. Again. He said it wasn't a tax. Obama lies; freedom dies."

    http://twitter.com/SarahPalinUSA/

  28. Grifter  •  Jun 28, 2012 @8:43 am

    http://huelskamp.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4088&Itemid=300123

    "When they look back on the American system of once-limited government, June 28, 2012 will stand as a definitive date in the advance of government tyranny. Today, a slim majority of the Supreme Court turned our Constitution on its head, and ruled that the federal government, in effect, can force upon the American people anything it damn well pleases – as long as it is called a tax. Unlimited federal power, combined with judicial activism, has crafted a new regime that has destroyed our Founders' vision."

    "Not only are individual liberties destroyed as a result of ObamaCare, but taxpayers are on the hook for a non-workable, ineffective, and outrageously expensive health care program. ObamaCare will drive America into bankruptcy…"

  29. Jober  •  Jun 28, 2012 @8:43 am

    Patrick Gaspard must earn some sort of efficiency award for needing only 3 words and 30 characters to be a pompous jagwagon.

  30. Patrick  •  Jun 28, 2012 @8:49 am

    Wow. Early favorite there.

  31. raptros-v76  •  Jun 28, 2012 @8:50 am

    From The Onion, fitting "smug, gloating condescension" fairly well,
    http://www.theonion.com/articles/republicans-leukemia-team-up-to-repeal-health-care,17215/

  32. Andrew  •  Jun 28, 2012 @8:52 am

    "What a sad day in American History. We are no longer free or permited to make our own choices. So Christian Scientists will be forced to have health insurance? It's like forcing Amish children to bus to school. Fine people who fail to purchase something they can't afford…fabulous logic. Is this job creation? Government employees who will administer and departments to collect fines. We should be dismantling the IRS and here we go creating more unnecessary beuracracy. November get here quick!"

    Comment from "Pribyl"

  33. Ann Bransom  •  Jun 28, 2012 @8:52 am

    From commenter "EastKY" in the comments section of my hometown newspaper the Lexington Herald Leader:

    "There goes my marriage. It's a sad comment on where our freedom is headed when a marriage has survived everything that can be thrown at a marriage and after 37 years of vowing to stay together no matter what we will now be forced to divorce because he cannot afford to add me to his insurance and would now be forced to do so.
    Our young men and women have fought nad died for our freedom only to have our president and congress take it away."

    Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2012/06/28/2240793/high-court-to-deliver-health-care.html#storylink=cpy
    http://www.kentucky.com/2012/06/28/2240793/high-court-to-deliver-health-care.html#disqus_thread

  34. Tony F  •  Jun 28, 2012 @8:57 am
  35. Tony F  •  Jun 28, 2012 @8:59 am

    Looks like some already beat me to it. Withdrawn.

  36. Grifter  •  Jun 28, 2012 @8:59 am

    And, in the smug satisfaction category:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/28/obamacare-supreme-court-decision_n_1585156.html

    Studiorion comments:
    "The tears are delicious."

  37. jess  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:01 am

    "Justice Roberts is about as useful as a screen door in a submarine"

    Christian Spain, UAB

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/06/Supreme-Court-rules-on-Obama-health-care-plan-718037/1

  38. Peter H  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:05 am

    This one is great, not just an absurd tweet, but a re-affirmed double down absurd tweet:

    https://twitter.com/shadcraft21/status/218363156920152066

  39. Peter H  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:06 am

    In case my last one gets deleted off twitter:

    "Code-Switch Shawty ‏@shadcraft21

    Plessy v. Ferguson RT @the_blueprint remeber dred scott? just because the SCOTUS rules in favor of something, that doesn't make it right."

  40. Grifter  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:07 am

    "America is dead

    The SCOTUS has killed it.

    John Roberts should be hung as a traitor."

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-sheffield/2012/06/28/open-thread-individual-mandate-struck-down#ixzz1z6YbFbrP

  41. Robert White  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:12 am

    Suggested Rules Ammendment: All Fox News links should be disqualified as baseline. After all, in any invitational the inviting party performs but isn't technically a participant for judging.

    Since Fox always invites histrionics they should be considered "the host" for all contests of loony outrage on their side of the median media consensus. 8-)

  42. Dustin  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:17 am

    I feel like this article from slate is missing the pithy quote that would make it a top contender, but overall I think it's a good candidate for grabbing butthurt from the jaws of victory.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/scocca/2012/06/roberts_health_care_opinion_commerce_clause_the_real_reason_the_chief_justice_upheld_obamacare_.html

    The subheader: The chief justice’s canny move to uphold the Affordable Care Act while gutting the Commerce Clause.

  43. Kelly  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:19 am

    Oh boy! Rand Paul…
    "Just because a couple people on the Supreme Court declare something to be ‘constitutional’ does not make it so. The whole thing remains unconstitutional. While the court may have erroneously come to the conclusion that the law is allowable, it certainly does nothing to make this mandate or government takeover of our health care right"

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/28/1103965/-Sen-Rand-Paul-says-Supreme-Court-isn-t-the-boss-of-what-s-constitutional

  44. Shkspr  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:21 am

    I like the simplicity of Rand Paul's response:

    “Just because a couple people on the Supreme Court declare something to be ‘constitutional’ does not make it so.”

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2012/06/rand-paul-obamacare-is-still-unconstitutional-127574.html

  45. Dave  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:21 am

    Twitter lighting up with people so upset about the decision that they're going to be moving to the bastion of liberty and freedom to not have health insurance that is Canada.

    (Punchline over here for folks who need it.)

  46. Shkspr  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:21 am

    Damn you, ninja Kelly… :)

  47. ULTRAGOTHA  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:22 am
  48. somebody  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:24 am

    Back when Diablo III got released and nobody was able to log in right away, a youtube video surfaced of a fat guy getting so angry that he got out a stick of Old Spice and ate the entire thing in front of his computer.

    …I should go looking for youtube responses to this decision.

  49. Kelly  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:25 am

    @ Shkspr …sorry! It showed up on my facebook feed and I had to share. The comments on the article I linked are hilarious too.
    "Damn those couple people and their unconstitutional supermajority powers!"

    "I'm guessing that he's unaware of Marbury vs. Madison (1803). Yup, just another product of our failing school system. Betcha if he went to a voucher school, they would have taught him basic civics. /snark"

  50. Grifter  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:26 am

    http://www.infowars.com/supreme-court-rules-in-favor-of-obamacare/

    "“ObamaCare”? this sounds exactly like Stalingrad back in Communist Russia"

    "Time for revolutions. grab your guns. put on your battle dress. lets go. lets go."

    "If it’s a tax and it falls under the IRS’ authority to enforce, then it doesn’t apply to citizens – This is why I keep telling people to see the videos ‘The Truth Behind The Income Tax’ (free online) and the 12 hr video seminar ‘Just The Facts’ (piercingtheillusion.org) !!!

    PEOPLE – YOU NEED TO START FIGHTING THE IRS NOW MORE THAN EVER !!!

    Get tar, feathers, and a rope !"

    "“The Supreme (sold out) Court just shit all over the Constitution”

    Roberts wiped his butt with it!"

    "Well, well. Looks like the Constitution is officially dead and buried. Let the criminals in DC do their worst. F##k them! F##k that Obongo from the Congo and his communist corporate whore court! I always knew the day would come when this criminal government would make me into a “criminal”. So here it is, and proud I am to be one."

    That place is just such a joy to visit.

  51. strech  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:27 am

    It lacks the visible crazy that could make it a winner, but subtly implying Roberts was bullied/forced into voting for the mandate by outside forces has a certain kind of charm.

  52. StrongStyleFiction  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:31 am

    The funny thing about Infowars is, if the supreme court had ruled Obamacare unconstitutional, Alex Jones still would have claimed it was part of a globalist plot to destroy democracy and institute a one-world order.

  53. Kent Allard  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:35 am

    This zinger in the opinion from the CJ is pretty snarky:

    "We do not consider whether the Act embodies sound policies. That judgment is entrusted to the Nation's elected leaders." Slip Opinion Pg 2 (I left my bluebook at lawschool)

  54. Kelly  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:38 am

    "Unconstitutional", Sen. Paul?

    "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

    – I. Montoya FOX NEWS: post crock ergo propter crock"

    As an offside, popcorn anyone?

  55. Ann Bransom  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:39 am

    Just….all of this.

  56. Carl "Bear" Bussjaeger  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:47 am

    Bend Over
    (post-Obamacare ruling; bound to something else after the Holder contempt vote… if I'm still sober enough to type):

    http://carlbussjaeger.blogspot.com/2012/06/bend-over.html

    (bonus points for the graphic?)

  57. irishgirl999  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:50 am

    Hope this isn't too long!

    "BrianusBerkleianus 57 minutes ago

    My Dear Friends in Sarah,

    Today's dire events are yet another reminder to us of a couple of things:

    A) We must place our trust, not in human flesh, but in the Lord of Hosts.

    B) We must never judge people too quickly: Who would have guessed that KENNEDY would stand with America, and that Benedict Arnold John ROBERTS would betray us????

    We need the Governor's leadership more than ever.

    Also—and please, I am not directly asking the Lord to remove Roberts or any of the other traitors; He alone is Lord of Life and Death—BUT, HE decides how long each one of us draws breath and life on this Earth. WE cannot take such matters into our hands, but it is just possible that, the Lord willing, Sarah's presidency could coincide with many openings on the High Court, including the places now held by some of the “younger” Justices.

    We just do not know!!

    Let us resolve—after we get over the initial shock–to fight harder and harder and harder for a SARAH PRESIDENCY.

    SHE, a superb judge of character, would never give us more Souters or more Robertses.

    And—it is not just her own judgment that would come into play with such nominations, but …

    SHE WOULD PRAY TO THE LORD OF LIGHTS FOR HELP IN THE SELECTION PROCESS—THE LORD, WHO KNOWS ALL THE DEEP PLACES OF ALL HUMAN HEARTS.

    WE SHALL NEVER SURRENDER!!!

    PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN!!!!!!!!

    Brianus"

    http://conservatives4palin.com/2012/06/open-thread-scotus-rules-on-obamacare.html#disqus_thread

    :)

  58. Gal  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:55 am

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/supreme-court-announces-decision-obamas-health-care-law/comments?type=story&id=16663839

    I really don't see how it is not completely obvious that Obama is a terrible president and a man with an agenda to end America!! The man has done NOTHING and all his minions can do is bash was is good and right. I stand with those who fought so hard to keep individual freedoms. George Washington said, "When the people realize that they can take from their country, that will be Americas downfall." Go Romney!!!!!

    CHAKAKHAAAAAAAN!!!!!

  59. Pierce Nichols  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:57 am

    @StrongStyleFiction: Alex Jones and his flying monkeys bring the rage NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS.

    And I would like to nominate freerepublic.com, in its entirety, for both halves of this. They're already threatening to have a collective aneurysm over the ACA decision that makes almost everything posted here so far (with the exception of the infowars quotes) look entirely pedestrian.

  60. Andrew  •  Jun 28, 2012 @10:02 am

    The always-reliable Alec Baldwin:

    "SCOTUS fixed game in Bush v Gore, bc they hated Gore. What does 2day's decision say about GOP faith in Romney? ‪#SCOTUSworks4GOP"

    http://twitter.com/alecbaldwin/status/218352283744870402

  61. Buzz Killington  •  Jun 28, 2012 @10:03 am
  62. I'm with Beth.

    Beth • Jun 28, 2012 @7:54 am

    benshapiro ‏@benshapiro

    This is the greatest destruction of individual liberty since Dred Scott. This is the end of America as we know it. No exaggeration.

    The schaden freudes itself, as I like to say.
    ~

  63. Patrick  •  Jun 28, 2012 @10:07 am

    I'm ineligible to win this, I already own a dvd of Wrath of Khan, and Rush Limbaugh is excluded, but I did just hear him say:

    "We're in ancient gladiator days folks, where the Emperor gives you a thumbs up, or a thumbs down."

    I'm not sure what it meant, but Rush's butt is hurting today.

  64. Stacey  •  Jun 28, 2012 @10:10 am

    http://spectator.org/blog/2012/06/28/roberts-wrecks-america
    This is nothing short of a disaster for the nation, and a huge black mark on John Roberts’ legacy.
    In reading from his dissent, Justice Kennedy said “In our view, the entire Act before us is invalid in its entirety.”
    In speaking with others, I noted that Roberts was the Court member who worried me most; more than Kennedy. Still, I am fairly stunned by this outcome and can’t help but feel that the soul of our nation has just been lost.

  65. Talisker  •  Jun 28, 2012 @10:13 am

    This isn't a single quote, and thus not eligible, but #Roberts Traitor on twitter is full of 'em: https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/Roberts%20traitor

  66. StrongStyleFiction  •  Jun 28, 2012 @10:13 am

    http://www.salon.com/2012/06/28/conservatives_turn_on_roberts/

    “It’s patently absurd,” seethed Seton Motley, a conservative activist with LessGovernment.org. “This is the umpire calling the game for the first five innings, and then putting on a cap and glove and playing first base. You can’t sit and preside over the case as a judge and then say, you know what, you didn’t make the right argument, we’ll make it for you and rule in your favor with an argument that we think is better yours,” he said.

    “It’s a terrible day for the American people,” said Rep. Michele Bachmann, the Minnesota Republican who ran for president earlier this year. “This was an activist court that rewrote the law to make it even more ineffectual, and even more expensive. So this is a sad day.”

  67. J  •  Jun 28, 2012 @10:17 am

    http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-dems-ecstatic-gop-vows-fight-as-court-upholds-healthcare-law-20120628,0,4495490.story

    End of the article:

    Rep. Paul Broun (R-Ga.) called it a "sad day for liberty.’’

    "The court’s misguided decision is an attack on freedom, an insult to our Constitution, and it will ultimately destroy the best healthcare system in the world,’’ he said. "Chief Justice Roberts once said that the Supreme Court’s job is to apply the law – ‘to call balls and strikes, not to pitch or bat.’ He couldn’t have been more right in saying so, and he couldn’t have been more wrong by choosing to circumvent the Constitution this morning. Even worse, I fear that the high court has opened Pandora’s box by blatantly disregarding the law, and there will no longer be any real limits to what the federal government will be able to force the American people to do.’’

  68. J  •  Jun 28, 2012 @10:20 am
  69. CWK  •  Jun 28, 2012 @10:20 am
  70. bill quoted  •  Jun 28, 2012 @10:20 am

    a comment to this Marietta Daily Journal article

    Tex G
    |
    3 Hours Ago
    Life in our country is now over as we once knew it. This is now a bona fide communist nation.

    From June 6 1944 to today June 28 2012 we were the kings. Today's decision is the beginning of the end.

    God save us all.

    It doesn't have to do with the ACA, but as a lagniappe I direct you to Lib In Cobb's response to a story about a ballet student

  71. Michael  •  Jun 28, 2012 @10:21 am

    "With this decision, Americans have lost the right to be left alone… The powers of the federal government are now broad and uncabined, and the freedoms of the people are few and confined… the Constitution has been undone, and federal power knows no limit."

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/06/28/supreme-court-upholds-obamacare-and-americans-have-lost-right-to-be-left-alone/

  72. Jonnelle  •  Jun 28, 2012 @10:22 am

    Does anything said by Tara Carreon count? There might be too many links to list if so.

  73. Daniel  •  Jun 28, 2012 @10:23 am

    My brother compares States v. Obamacare to landmark rulings allowing state sponsored racism

    BTW: My dad "liked" it. I don't think I'm really related to either of them.

  74. Jesse  •  Jun 28, 2012 @10:29 am

    I tell ya, it was a hell of a thing when Spock died.

  75. Matt F.  •  Jun 28, 2012 @10:32 am

    "We The People are screwed. Courts have sold out the people. Roberts probably had a huge check given him for his vote. American people have lost greatest country ever to communist,Islam democrats. Only revolution will stop insanity on the left. We have now headed in direction of Egypt,and other 3rd world countries."

    http://www.teapartynation.com/profiles/blogs/did-the-scotus-create-a-new-taxing-authority-not-in-the-current?id=3355873%3ABlogPost%3A2072969&page=2#comments

  76. Michael  •  Jun 28, 2012 @10:34 am

    Bad Day to be a right wing crazy.

    Fortune destroys the "Fast and Furious" BS.

    http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2012/06/27/fast-and-furious-truth

  77. nrasmuss13  •  Jun 28, 2012 @10:35 am

    https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/218351714661703681

    "benshapiro ‏@benshapiro

    This is the greatest destruction of individual liberty since Dred Scott. This is the end of America as we know it. No exaggeration."

  78. Aaron  •  Jun 28, 2012 @10:46 am

    Any of the original derp for #movingtocanada on twitter was about the most gloriously dumb knee jerk response I could have hoped for. Alas, I can't figure out how to link to a twitter hashtag

  79. Steve Florman  •  Jun 28, 2012 @10:52 am

    I hope this is visible to the public, but the Facebook posts on the Internet Commission on Butthurt Events Tracking here are pretty nice:

    https://www.facebook.com/#!/steven.appelget

  80. ULTRAGOTHA  •  Jun 28, 2012 @11:07 am

    Boing Boing's headline: "Supremes uphold Romneycare, including mandate"

    Which won't win the prize, but I love the snark.

    http://boingboing.net/2012/06/28/supremes-uphold-obamacare-inc.html

  81. Adam Steinbaugh  •  Jun 28, 2012 @11:18 am

    https://mobile.twitter.com/JackKingston/statuses/218359574539943937

    "With #Obamacare ruling, I feel like I just lost two great friends: America and Justice Roberts."

    Jack Kingston, R-GA

  82. Aaron  •  Jun 28, 2012 @11:28 am

    http://www.lc.org/index.cfm?PID=14102&AlertID=1425

    "ObamaCare is the largest funding of abortion in history. It will bankrupt America. It will destroy our healthcare system. The law must now be repealed. Elections have consequences. ObamaCare is the result of squandered votes cast in 2008. This November, we need to elect principled people who will repeal ObamaCare."

  83. J  •  Jun 28, 2012 @11:40 am

    I think Aaron took the cake with the ones I have read so far… but that's just the opinion of this random commentator.

  84. Adam Steinbaugh  •  Jun 28, 2012 @11:43 am

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2012/06/pence-likens-health-care-ruling-to-127628.html

    "In a closed door House GOP meeting Thursday, Indiana congressman and gubernatorial candidate Mike Pence likened the Supreme Court's ruling upholding the Democratic health care law to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, according to several sources present.

    He immediately apologized."

  85. In a closed door House GOP meeting Thursday, Indiana congressman and gubernatorial candidate Mike Pence likened the Supreme Court's ruling upholding the Democratic health care law to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, according to several sources present.

    He immediately apologized.

    Don't know if the immediate apology disqualifies what otherwise was full of POPEHAT WIN!

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2012/06/pence-likens-health-care-ruling-to-127628.html
    ~

  86. Congratulations, Mr. Steinbaugh!

    ;-)

  87. Margaret  •  Jun 28, 2012 @11:47 am

    @Adam Steinbaugh:

    That's dangerously close to Godwining. I'm sure somebody out there (Tara, are you listening?) is going to say, "The health care mandate is EXACTLY LIKE THE HOLOCAUST."

  88. Patrick  •  Jun 28, 2012 @11:51 am

    Godwin's law has meaning only in its original sense here. We're purists.

  89. John David Galt  •  Jun 28, 2012 @11:51 am

    (I came here to make a nomination but won't bother — InfoWars has everybody else beat by a mile!)

    The next election was already about ObamaCare — and the other major parts of Obama's agenda (card check and cap & trade).

    The only real difference is that Obama couldn't get the last two through the House of Representatives, so he enacted them by executive order, on which the Supreme Court has yet to rule.

    Still, none of these controversies ends until the fat lady sings. The next President will appoint the justices who can start correcting these perversions of the Constitution — or who will nail them in place.

  90. Debra  •  Jun 28, 2012 @11:53 am

    I love the incoherent nature of this comment by sonford:

    " YEA!!!! YEEHAW. Big money and facism lost
    one…hahaha…eat the sandwich Don and
    lisa…that's not brown trout you taste!"

    News miner

  91. Adam Steinbaugh  •  Jun 28, 2012 @11:54 am

    @Patrick: you know who else was a purist?

  92. Look at that  •  Jun 28, 2012 @11:57 am

    From Daily Kos:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/28/1104010/-Ha-ha-ha-this-is-the-guy-Republicans-nbsp-nominated

    "Ha ha! From Mitt Romney's Courts & The Constitution campaign website page:

    As president, Mitt will nominate judges in the mold of Chief Justice Roberts and Justices Scalia, Thomas, and Alito,” reads the ‘Courts & The Constitution’ section of Romney’s campaign website.

    So to recap, Republicans nominated the Father of Obamacare, and has pledged to nominate justices in the mold of Chief Justice Roberts, who upheld Obamcare.

    It's enough to almost feel sorry for the wingnuts. Almost."

  93. Patrick  •  Jun 28, 2012 @11:59 am

    We'll play the Infowars bit by ear.

    Infowars is like AOL for crazy people, a site for those who need training wheels before they're ready to tackle the wider internet

  94. Look at that  •  Jun 28, 2012 @12:02 pm

    More schadenfreude from Kos:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/28/1104023/-Bringing-Left-and-Right-together-over-Justice-Roberts

    "Oh my!

    Furious conservative activists lashed out Thursday in the blogosphere at Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts for siding with the left and upholding the individual mandate in “Obamacare,” with some even calling for his impeachment.

    Bozell tells me: "People are already talking about the possibility that [Roberts] could be replaced as Chief Justice."
    — @mattklewis via web

    Dear conservatives,

    Unfortunately there's really no way to replace Roberts as chief justice except by either convincing him to resign/retire, or by impeaching him.

    So to show that I'm not 100 percent partisan, 100 percent of the time, let me reach out in solidarity—

    It was total bullshit what Chief Justice Roberts did to you. So I'm happy to join you in calling for his ouster, either voluntarily or via impeachment. Heck, I'll go out of my way to help you accomplish this laudable goal.

    That's just how helpful I am."

  95. Patrick  •  Jun 28, 2012 @12:03 pm

    Again, I'm not eligible to win but I enjoy playing:

    https://twitter.com/jtLOL/status/218418576539918337

  96. Namio  •  Jun 28, 2012 @12:09 pm

    So, this website is called onenewsnow.com, and it's an offshoot of the American Family Association, which has been classified as a hate group by the SPLC (and for good reason). This website is filled with insane people who think that gay is a synonym for pedophile (and if you offer them proof that this is false, they'll accuse you and any reputable psych association you link to of "liberal bias"), that all Muslims are terrorists, and that Obama is on a secret crusade to steal guns and wipe out Christianity. So you can imagine what they think of the supreme court ruling.
    http://onenewsnow.com/Legal/Default.aspx?id=1623356
    Some choice bits from the comments:

    -"Black robed Sith Lords!!!!!"

    -"Hey genius… it was 5-4 and justice would be that those who are responsible for this have to face the death panel to see if they qualify to live when we begin figuring out that we really cannot afford this."

    -"Care? Ha! Greed for power has a way of doing that. But you libs, uhhh communists I mean,( that's what a lib is from their own testimonies) don't care what happens or whom suffers or what freedoms they loose so long as you get your ways. This is something akin to the old USSR, Cuba or North Korea. I know, you'll make excuses and deny it and then make fun of me. Typical lib tatics."

    -"This is probably the most disgusting news I have heard since I found out Obama won the presidential election 4 plus trillion dollars and a few million murdered babies ago."

    -"This judgement will probably not make any difference to anybody. Jesus will come soon and start the tribulation period and everyone's spiritual health and relationship with Jesus will be what's really important. Glad because being a 60 yr. old diabetic will probably render me unqualified for medical care"

  97. Nicholas Weaver  •  Jun 28, 2012 @12:17 pm

    Although, to be honest, the Nerd Rage at the Great IAS Nerf in Diablo 3 rivals (or perhaps even exceeds) the Romneycare/Obamacare rage.

  98. Patrick  •  Jun 28, 2012 @12:22 pm

    It must be cozy in that bubble, Mr. Weaver.

  99. Nicholas Weaver  •  Jun 28, 2012 @12:27 pm

    Patrick: HA.

    I'm only being slightly sarcastic: There's a pretty good article exploring the NerdRage in Diablo: http://www.theawl.com/2012/06/diablo-3-nerdrage

  100. GDad  •  Jun 28, 2012 @12:34 pm

    I know I'm not eligible to vote, but I find Sarah Palin's tweet to be elegant, like a haiku.

    And I'm not a good enough Poe to write a good enough screed to even try to enter one under false pretenses. :)

  101. repsac3  •  Jun 28, 2012 @12:40 pm

    I came to nominate, but reading through, I could see my entry was a piker in comparison… But, two things:

    @Jesse • Jun 28, 2012 @10:29 am

    No spoiler alert?!? DUDE, that's just WRONG… (Next you'll tell me he comes back to life, like a clone, or something…)

    ~~~

    Adam Steinbaugh • Jun 28, 2012 @11:54 am

    My vote for winning comment, non-"contest-at-hand" division.

  102. Jonathan Corbett  •  Jun 28, 2012 @12:41 pm

    That's easy: I nominate Blogger Bob.

  103. Ike  •  Jun 28, 2012 @12:59 pm

    It's not exactly a full KHAN, but going to the full-circle department, the denouncement of the initial architects of ObamneyCare is rather humorous.

    http://www.foundry.org/2012/06/28/a-clarion-call-for-the-american-people/

  104. Jimbo  •  Jun 28, 2012 @1:03 pm

    Comment on a Business Insider posting of the full text of the decision:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/here-is-the-obamacare-ruling-2012-6

    "imdwightgooden on Jun 28, 11:00 AM said:

    TO THE TRULY PRODUCTIVE AND ENTREPRENEURIAL- I IMPLORE YOU FOR YOUR CAPITAL TO GO ON STRIKE…. FIRE SOMEONE TODAY, TURN YOUR DEPOSITS INTO ASSETS OUTSIDE THE SYSTEM, FIRE SOMEONE NEXT WEEK, DISENGAGE FROM ANY THOUGHTS OF EXPANSION HERE IN THE U.S., INVEST EXCLUSIVELY IN STOCKS OF NON-U.S. BASED COMPANIES

    a war was started… it's not a war of my choosing, but it's a war that needs to be fought… capital on strike"

  105. darthskeptic  •  Jun 28, 2012 @1:30 pm

    http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/17151

    "Implicit in Benjamin Franklin's fabled response at the conclusion of the Constitutional Convention was a dire warning: That the Republic would one day devolve into tyranny unless we the people prevented it. . . .
    If government can mandate that I pay for something I don't want, then what is beyond its power? If the Supreme Court's decision Thursday paves the way for unprecedented intrusion into personal decisions, then has the Republic all but ceased to exist? If so, then is armed rebellion today justified?

    God willing, this oppression will be lifted and America free again before the first shot is fired."

  106. Indy  •  Jun 28, 2012 @1:34 pm

    Not a single quote, but still somehow magical: people on Twitter who are so angry about the Obamacare ruling, they are (wait for it) going to move to Canada.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/people-moving-to-canada-because-of-obamacare

  107. Doesnt Quite Get It  •  Jun 28, 2012 @1:40 pm

    https://www.facebook.com/nstelzner/posts/3311878000569

    Nate Stelzner on Facebook:

    "I think people who think the health care mandate violates "individual freedom" should have to live for the next 2 years with no health insurance. Call your HR dept, cancel your coverage, live up to your big talking. Use what's available to people who don't have good medical coverage through their employer. Free state HC for your kids, nothing for you. I dare you."

  108. eman  •  Jun 28, 2012 @1:41 pm
  109. Richard  •  Jun 28, 2012 @1:42 pm

    Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Rick Santorum.

    http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/blog/rick-santorum-rips-very-dangerous-obama-who-believes-he-above-law

    "President Obama believes he is above the law, entitled to abusing his power to get what he wants, and willing to violate the constitution and the oath he was sworn to uphold."

  110. newsouthzach  •  Jun 28, 2012 @1:43 pm

    I hereby nominate Ben Shapiro's twitter feed. Money quote: "This is the greatest destruction of individual liberty since Dred Scott. This is the end of America as we know it. No exaggeration." It gets better from there…

  111. newsouthzach  •  Jun 28, 2012 @1:45 pm

    More good rage here, although linking to Breitbart on a day like today is just cruel.

  112. Richard  •  Jun 28, 2012 @1:54 pm
  113. mojo  •  Jun 28, 2012 @1:55 pm

    And the KUBLAIKHAN is, of course, equivalent to 3 GENGHISKAHNs.

  114. Sharon W.  •  Jun 28, 2012 @2:06 pm

    A handful of gun-jumpers all happy-happy that they had something to crow about…..oopsies.

    Fuse Washington ‏@FuseWA
    Republicans delete celebratory "Obamacare is unconstitutional" tweets. Awkward. http://fusewa.me/OAIOgp #p2 #ACA #HCRdecision
    Retweeted by William Gibson

  115. Grifter  •  Jun 28, 2012 @2:11 pm

    Richard, that new Infowars is gold:

    "The Constitution has been violated, the Bill of Rights has been burned, and I see no army coming to rescue me- Therefore, This is No Longer the United States of America its battlefield. Troops marching through cities and something causing people to turn into savages while they’re trying to blame it on weed. How long until they try to kill me because I know more about medical treatment than the “doctors” they’ll escort with M16′s to force a poison into me?"

  116. Kelly Norton  •  Jun 28, 2012 @2:16 pm

    Matt Davis, the former spokesman for the Michigan Republican Party:

    "If government can mandate that I pay for something I don’t want, then what is beyond its power? If the Supreme Court’s decision Thursday paves the way for unprecedented intrusion into personal decisions, then has the Republic all but ceased to exist? If so, then is armed rebellion today justified?
    God willing, this oppression will be lifted and America free again before the first shot is fired."

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/michigan_matt_davis_gop_armed_rebellion.php

  117. Margaret  •  Jun 28, 2012 @2:24 pm

    @Grifter:

    Finally, somebody has uncovered what this is really all about! WEED! Wacky Tabacky!

  118. DiMono  •  Jun 28, 2012 @2:27 pm

    This is clearly justification for armed rebellion.

    http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/17151

  119. James  •  Jun 28, 2012 @2:33 pm

    I really tried hard to bloviate on my own, but these have me beat. Here's my vote:

    http://www.toberight.com/2012/06/health-care-reaction/

    "I think this is the day America died."

    Really? this is the worst thing that could ever happen?

  120. Patrick  •  Jun 28, 2012 @2:40 pm

    Lots of great stuff here.

    But the best will come tonight, because that's when the drunkblogging begins.

  121. Patrick  •  Jun 28, 2012 @2:55 pm

    Why the morons who oversee editing at Wikipedia didn't lock John Roberts' page last night, well…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Roberts&oldid=499780746

  122. Gal  •  Jun 28, 2012 @3:10 pm

    Truly, this has all the majestic glory of three galaxies colliding.

  123. AlphaCentauri  •  Jun 28, 2012 @3:13 pm

    http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/it-now-falls-congress

    While the arguments sound reasoned, he's not just objecting to the Obamacare decision; he wants to get rid of a lot of older innovations:

    "Chief Justice Roberts joined the four justices who are Exhibit A of the modern hubris, writing for the Court to uphold almost all of this monstrous intrusion on our liberty and on the very theory of the Constitution. And he did so on the flimsiest of rationales for deciding a constitutional question — precedent. If precedent carried the weight Roberts gave it today, we’d still be riding in segregated trains and sending our children to segregated schools."

    "… all of that was lost in 1937 when the New Deal Court, cowed by Roosevelt’s infamous Court-packing threat, suddenly “found” that Congress had an independent power to tax and spend for the “general welfare,” a power that had escaped the Court’s attention for 150 years. That’s the “precedent” for today’s decision — which, like the precedent itself, turn’s the Constitution on its head, giving us effectively unlimited government."

    "… starting with World War II wage-and-price controls and the tax advantages that were given to employer-provided health insurance, it’s been one government intrusion after another and a textbook example of how government can completely mess up what free markets plus voluntary charity can efficiently order while respecting the rights and dignity of people in the process."

    That "general welfare" that covers things not enumerated in the Constitution covers things like interstate highways that were never dreamed of in 1787. And I'm not sure what charity he is thinking of that would provide all the health care currently being provided via employer health insurance, let alone government funded plans — or how it would be funded without being subsidized via tax deductions for donors (or why it can't even manage to provide health care for the people who currently remain uninsured despite everything else). Perhaps he's assuming that with no insurance to pay for medical care for people too sick to work, that all these bothersome expensive medical innovations wouldn't have been developed anyway. Perhaps developing colon cancer and dying vomiting feces is cheaper than treatment, though it's hard to see how getting a colonoscopy and plucking out a pre-cancerous polyp on the spot is less expensive than dying young and no longer supporting your family or paying taxes.

  124. Patrick  •  Jun 28, 2012 @3:22 pm

    Alpha, that's not what we're looking for.

    Your mission is to help us find the most egregious example of hysterical, shrieking outrage, or smug, gloating condescension, produced on the World Wide Web today.

    Reading is fundamental.

    More than thoughtful analysis, we want predictions of DOOM for the American republic, or a holocaust for women, minorities, the poor, and children.

    If you don't shape up, your next comment, and all succeeding comments at this site, will be edited to say:

    You know, a lot of people will tell you that Larry was the best Stooge. But they don't know what they're talking about. I'm a Curly man. So round. So bald. So handsome.

    I'd have done that already but you're a valued commenter with good insights.

    Get out there and WIN THE PRIZE!

  125. AlphaCentauri  •  Jun 28, 2012 @3:22 pm

    "Why the morons who oversee editing at Wikipedia didn't lock John Roberts' page last night, well…"

    Maybe because they thought they needed to lock Thomas' and Scalia's?

  126. The Bitchy Knitter  •  Jun 28, 2012 @3:37 pm

    http://www.ravelry.com/discuss/freedom-fighters-for-america/2198811/1-25#4

    "I have a theory on this. I believe that they know that it’s days are numbered. I believe that if they would have struck the law down or at least the mandate down, there would have been riots in the streets. Not by Conservatives, who are still in the majority in most places, but by the whiney butt Liberals. They have in their playbook violence, terrorism and other horrors. They would have made parts of the country and DC unlivable for months, there would have been violence. We don’t do violence. We may get snotty, but we don’t bomb, hit, throw things, etc. We will lift our cries to Heaven and anyone else who we can get to listen, but we don’t commit terrors. The Justices know that. Now we get to work on repeal, we were going to do that anyway. Yell into the heavens, (God can take it!) then let’s get back to work making the world a better place.
    k"

  127. Adam Steinbaugh  •  Jun 28, 2012 @3:47 pm

    I suspect that Mark Levin is disqualified as being Limbaugh-with-a-JD, but, here goes:

    Just because five lawyers in black robes, one of whom was purported to be a conservative, a man I knew a long time ago, issue a decision of the sort that they issued doesn't make it proper. As a matter of fact, this decision I would go as far to say is lawless. Absolutely lawless.

  128. quincy  •  Jun 28, 2012 @3:54 pm

    Advocating rebellion in the face of a decision they don't like? The Libertarians upped their wingnut game considerably.

    http://www.downsizedc.org/blog/its-time-for-open-rebellion

  129. Daniel Peters  •  Jun 28, 2012 @4:17 pm

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2012/06/pence-likens-health-care-ruling-to-127628.html

    "In a closed door House GOP meeting Thursday, Indiana congressman and gubernatorial candidate Mike Pence likened the Supreme Court's ruling upholding the Democratic health care law to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, according to several sources present."

  130. Look at that  •  Jun 28, 2012 @4:20 pm
  131. Grifter  •  Jun 28, 2012 @4:21 pm

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/tx-lawmakers-vow-to-fight-obamacare-ron-paul-explains-why-bureaucrats-will-call-the-shots/

    Gems like:

    "BURNTHILLS
    Posted on June 28, 2012 at 3:48pm
    it took the successful Roman Empire more than 900 years to fall.

    that filthy communist animal obama just effectively murdered 300 million Americans and 410 years of freedom in America in less than 4 years."

  132. Look at that  •  Jun 28, 2012 @4:22 pm
  133. Peachkins  •  Jun 28, 2012 @4:29 pm

    No one said Glenn Beck was off limits. Some highlights:

    "At the start of the show, Glenn added some levity by riding into the studio on a horse and wearing a kilt. Once he shouted, “You may take our money…but you’ll never take our freedom!” it was clear he was parodying Braveheart."

    "In addition to putting out a call for people to activate, Glenn also called out several GOP progressives who had a hand in making this ruling possible – especially Chief Justice John Roberts. First, he had a shirt made that calls out Roberts for what he is – a coward! Glenn also had radio co-host Pat Gray dress up as The Dread Pirate Roberts (a reference to Andre the Giant’s infamous scene in the classic film The Princess Bride). Glenn specifically called Roberts a coward because he believed he had hidden his progressive leanings rather than be straightforward from the start."

    "'We lost the battle today, but the war is just getting started,” Glenn said. “President Obama came out and spike the ball, proclaiming today was a ‘victory for the American people’. You know what? I actually agree with him. Not because this disaster of a bill was upheld by the Supreme Court. Today was a victory for America because they’ve awoken a sleeping giant,' Glenn said."

    http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/06/28/glenn-tears-apart-supreme-court-ruling-and-justice-roberts-calls-for-a-mandate-against-obama-in-november/

  134. Grifter  •  Jun 28, 2012 @4:32 pm

    This one's mostly images, but it's full of delicious smug:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/28/1104098/-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  135. Jon  •  Jun 28, 2012 @4:44 pm

    @Jonnelle

    bahahaha TC for the win! She goes to "11"

  136. Look at that  •  Jun 28, 2012 @4:46 pm

    Oh, grifter!

  137. Marzipan  •  Jun 28, 2012 @4:58 pm

    From the Heritage Foundation, whose Stuart M. Butler once described the individual mandate in "A Framework for Reform" thusly: "Element #1: Every resident of the U.S. must, by law, be enrolled in an adequate health care plan to cover major health care costs."

    http://www.foundry.org/2012/06/28/obamacares-legal-battles-continue-in-hhs-mandate-cases/

    "This morning, the Supreme Court didn’t just miss the opportunity to protect individual liberty. It also failed to defend religious freedom."

  138. Angstela  •  Jun 28, 2012 @5:01 pm
  139. Look at that  •  Jun 28, 2012 @5:09 pm

    If counts matter, the Sacramento Bee's thread is up to 1266 comments. Couldn't find anything as good as seen so far though. Lots of gloating, which is unusual, usually the threads are dominated by the Tea Party…….

  140. Piper  •  Jun 28, 2012 @5:25 pm

    Patrick – not even a blue-ray? DVD is so 20th Century…

  141. wxwatcher  •  Jun 28, 2012 @5:31 pm

    https://www.facebook.com/chris.self.50

    This probably doesn't qualify since it's just a random person, but I had to share.

    "Today I awoke to find out that my grandparents who fought off fascism and their children who defeated communism had all rolled over in their graves having been betrayed by their children who have constricted a communist healthcare system with a Fascist leadership structure that will b able to tell people they r too old or sick to waste money helping and must die. If the law is allowed to stand expect death camps where retirement communities were and a bankrupt country within 10 years. Don't believe me look at the uk. But yes all the lazy people who refuse to work 2 jobs like the rest of us did when we were uneducated will have healthcare. Congrats."

  142. leo marvin  •  Jun 28, 2012 @5:41 pm

    Here's a lovely bit of spoken death-of-the-Republic wingnuttery from some guy on YouTube.

  143. Namio  •  Jun 28, 2012 @5:50 pm

    This isn't exactly rage, but it does win my vote for biggest WTF of the day:

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=455102464509648&set=a.119780611375170.15914.119537898066108&type=1&ref=nf

  144. David L.  •  Jun 28, 2012 @6:00 pm

    This comment from my own facebook timeline where I attempted to re-assure conservative folks that the world wasn't ending. I have removed the poster's name to protect their anonymity. [Italics mine]:

    so you dont mind spending my money for me. you are willing to tell me that it is for the greater good to pay this tax? that this good for nothing govt. deserves my money to pay for this. my healthcare is none of their concern and none of their business. its not their money they do not deserve it. i dont care about the specifics this is a country of freedom not socialism. you do not deserve my money nor does any other useless liberal, socialist, brain dead sheep of the obama flock.

    Shockingly, this person wasn't in my friends list anymore when I checked shortly thereafter.

  145. Ken  •  Jun 28, 2012 @6:02 pm

    Change of pace: this is definitely gloating, but actually pretty funny:

    http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2012/06/disbelief

  146. SPQR  •  Jun 28, 2012 @6:05 pm

    I'm pretty sure that I'm the first to use "SPQR" as my internet pseudonym as I've been using it for … **cough** quite a long time.

    But I've never heard of Hacker News and can't imagine why I would be banned there … or even "hellbanned" would as a term would probably be an infringement of the trademark rights of His Infernal Majesty to whom I report.

  147. Denny  •  Jun 28, 2012 @6:33 pm

    The personal vindictiveness against Roberts is my nomination for the most hysterical category of commentary today. I was going to suggest the Kingston tweet, but Adam Steinbaugh beat me to it, so here's an alternate:

    "My entire rationale to elect a POTUS based on their power to select SCOTUS justices has just been overtaken by events. ‪#Roberts"

    https://twitter.com/LeoDiB/status/218370057028374528

  148. Look at that  •  Jun 28, 2012 @6:50 pm

    Caught by (of course) Daily Kos

    "Breaking: Conservatives planning to leave U.S., but can't find wealthy Western democracy without universal health care. #hrc #scotus
    — @MSignorile via TweetDeck"

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/28/1104041/-SCOTUS-reactions-from-the-Right

  149. Look at that  •  Jun 28, 2012 @7:04 pm

    An exchange from the Sacramento Bee thread:

    Irrelevant_Elephant:

    Uh, hey conservatives………….I have a suggestion if you are against ObamaCare…….. Take it to court, by golly!

    Ba da BING!

    OldBlueDawg

    I think many of them should consider moving to a place with "less government", "low taxes", no "nanny state" environmental regulations, no "socialized medicine", and no restrictions on guns."

    Somalia would seem a good choice for many of them.

    Irrelevant_Elephant

    'Aren't these dirt roads great?'- Somali living in right wing libertarian paradise

  150. Wesley  •  Jun 28, 2012 @7:05 pm

    Kevin Brent from this Slate article: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/scocca/2012/06/roberts_health_care_opinion_commerce_clause_the_real_reason_the_chief_justice_upheld_obamacare_.html

    "Chief Judas Roberts sold out the United States of America and the citizens of it. He should be removed from the bench and stripped of his US Citizenship. The man is a Fascist pig just like his daddy, Obama"

  151. Trikeabout  •  Jun 28, 2012 @7:17 pm

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/28/12459913-how-far-the-four-dissenters-were-willing-to-go#c67519987

    "Idiot you just gave them the Power to TAX you into ANYTHING! ..To Tax any behavior instead of just taxing a percentage of your income … Its amazing to see how the Far Left NAZIonal-Socialist Collectivists will give up the power of running their own lives to fat cat Left Wing Special Interesr corporatists in Washington DC ……….. Because that's all who won in this judgement (Big Pharma)"

    I'm not sure if it's a Poe, frankly.

  152. Look at that  •  Jun 28, 2012 @7:18 pm

    In all the snark, there is a truly happy story today: A family is not responsible for a 469K bill for heart surgery:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/28/1104075/-Why-my-household-is-having-a-healthcaregasm-today

  153. Wesley  •  Jun 28, 2012 @7:24 pm

    Actually, on second thought, I'm going to offer the Slate article itself, as even though the ACA was upheld, the liberal author STILL manages to claim that Roberts and the conservatives started the beginning of the end of America: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/scocca/2012/06/roberts_health_care_opinion_commerce_clause_the_real_reason_the_chief_justice_upheld_obamacare_.html

    But the health care law was, ultimately, a pretext. This was a test case for the long-standing—but previously fringe—campaign to rewrite Congress' regulatory powers under the Commerce Clause.

    [...]

    Roberts' genius was in pushing this health care decision through without attaching it to the coattails of an ugly, narrow partisan victory. Obama wins on policy, this time. And Roberts rewrites Congress' power to regulate, opening the door for countless future challenges. In the long term, supporters of curtailing the federal government should be glad to have made that trade.

  154. Namio  •  Jun 28, 2012 @7:27 pm

    A few more from onenewsnow
    http://onenewsnow.com/Legal/Default.aspx?id=1623356

    -They finally found GW Bush's WMD (weapon of mass destruction). It was John Roberts…

    For the first time in my life, I am embarrassed to live in this country. I cannot believe that the people who "lead" this country could possibly have such a twisted view of our founders vision. This decision represents yet another in a LONG list of perversions to the beauty that used to embody the phrase, "Proud to be an American." I am a fairly young man, and unfortunately I feel that I may live to see the fall of this country because we are doomed to keep falling into this trap of the distorted ideology that government control is better than citizen control. People from my generation are so quick to hand their entire life to the government without thinking twice and don't even think about the freedom that is being given up. We are doomed.

    -They can come arrest me right now, because I WILL NEVER COMPLY with this Supremely unjust law that takes my money and pays for abortions and that would make my compliance a mortal sin, according to my faith.

    - Roberts' logic for the decision was so feeble and unbelievable that I would go so far as to ask if somebody or some group got to him and put the fear of God into him if he were to vote in favor of repealing this trashy example of gone mad monstrocity. I really hate to ask that, but that would make as much sense as anything on the "up and up" for Roberts to have used such feeble and lack of credibility reasoning for the Court's decision.

    -Well, if enough states agreed, we could all secede for the union and make a new country to start over and readopt the Constitution. Or we could just move to another country, but not sure which one. Can't go to Mexico, their immigration laws are too strict!!

    -Oh I know, next they can make us buy air, and tax us if we don't!!! They already claim to own the rain that falls on my property!!!

    -There is going to be another civil war in this country when the government finally overextends it reach into the lives of our citizens. I don't think the federal government will win this time.

    -Welcome to the United Socialist States of America, ceck your freedoms at the door, their not welcome here anymore…
    Justices Samuel Alito, Anthony Kennedy, Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas dissented….All that evil needs to proceed is for good men to stay silent…These men were silent, and should not get their pay.

    -With ObamaCare, America has become a tyranical bureaurcratic monster.
    And how shall Americans who love freedom and liberty respond?
    With Action.
    First with their voice, then at the polls, then with their blood.

    -This is…one…small step…for…Democrats…
    One…GIANT LEAP…for socialism/communism!

    -A sad day for America. To have a handful of black robes decide our lives is against everything the constitution was written for. Obama is doing all he can to bring us down, change us to a Muslim country, Sick, sick, sick. Raise up all of you out there, WAKE up! For God's sake, for your own sakes, realize what this illegal president is doing to YOU and all the rest of the USA. We need to be on our knees for a REAL president to be elected, Mitt Romney may not trip your trigger in every way shape and form, but he is a He–of a LOT BETTER than what we are being saddled with . This Man in the office is the worst EVER president to hold the office. He's as close to the Anti-Christ as you wil ever see until (Maybe he is for real the Anti-Christ) this USA and world ends as God has told us would happen. Remember Sodom and Gamorra (Know I didn't spell that right), but we are almost there. VOTE, VOTE, VOTE and get it right this time!

  155. Whitney  •  Jun 28, 2012 @7:29 pm

    In the "pure whining" category, a facebook comment from a small-time Tea Party politician named Ben Hodge:

    "I'm interested in public policy to force you to purchase Christina Aguilerra's next CD, to force you to buy CDs in general, to force you to purchase CDs with the full cardboard case around them (anyone remember those?) to protect the timber industry, and to force you to purchase insurance against attacks from Velociraptors.

    "A majority of any level of government knows better than you. Majority wins, right?"

    A majority of any level of government knows better than you. Majority wins, right?

  156. Matt F.  •  Jun 28, 2012 @7:44 pm

    The hits just keep on coming…

    "and NOW…there IS NOTHING to stop OBAMA's NAZI MARCH to control ALL & EVERYTHING..
    The SUPREME COURT should change their ROBES to BROWN SHIRTS.
    This is EXACTLY how the NAZI PARTY in GERMANY took over…SUPREME COURT support…FYI OBAMA :ALL the JACKASS LUNATIC LEFTISTS were celebrating like SS soldiers after a kill."
    https://twitter.com/reppsteve

  157. Look at that  •  Jun 28, 2012 @7:45 pm

    @Namio • Jun 28, 2012 @7:27 pm

    Wow, good find.

  158. GrumpyOldDad  •  Jun 28, 2012 @8:04 pm

    Smug and gloating all in one!

    The Executive Director of the DNC tweeted,"it's constitutional. Bitches.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/twitter-room/other-news/235397-dnc-staffers-go-off-script-celebrating-healthcare-ruling

  159. Look at that  •  Jun 28, 2012 @8:28 pm

    The Los Angeles Times thread has too many to choose! But, these stuck in my head (poor head):

    "The Obozotax is the new mantra. Enjoy your victory today because in November you will fall victim to a repeat of the 2010 Obozocare rout that took the House. Now in November you will lose the Senate.
    Romney will win in a landslide because the base is now FULLY ENERGIZED!!!!
    Watch the donations and the polls in the coming weeks and months. You don't have a clue yet…….
    Don't worry,,,,we will remind you
    Gee who new "everything for free" is not a sustainable economic model……
    And NOW WE WAIT….."

    And

    "Please do not worry! There is no cause for alarm. Move towards the divine light at the White house. There is no cause for alarm. Its only a tax. There is no cause for alarm. Please move towards the divine light at the White House! There is no cause for alarm. The Federal Government will take care of you at no cost to anyone. There is no cause for alarm! The Federal goverment will take care of you with the same efficentcy as Medicare and the Veterans Administration has done so for years. there is no cause for alarm! Please move forward and empty your pockets! There is no cause for alarm!"

    The thread:

    http://discussions.latimes.com/20/lanews/la-na-court-healthcare-20120629/10?page=1

  160. As has been written, go to Yahoo to find wingnut gold.

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/republicans-claim-supreme-court-ruling-boost-downballot-races-182224798.html

    Iris T • Charleston, West Virginia • 9 mins ago Report Abuse

    You can bet your sweet BUTTOxxxx that Roberts was intimidated, and THREATENED over this. Remember Andrew Breibart.. DIED SUDDENLY just before he was to release evidence on O'zombie? Remember the head guy that did his autopsy…DIED OF POISONING "before' the autopsy reports were released??? Lots of dif' people in Ocommie past have come up DEAD….and Sup'Court Roberts took that detour on this one..and if you don't believe it…..your just as Ignorant at the POS that is responsible~~~~!!! Barack!!!!!

    ==========================

    MichaelS • Plano, Texas • 1 hr 10 mins ago Report Abuse

    If I were elected President, the first order of business I would do is to order a nuclear attack on all of California and New York, and then dare the rest of the libturds to say another word….
    ~

  161. Adam Steinbaugh  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:15 pm

    Well, Drudge sure is making this easy by linking to comments like Michael Savage's:

    Let's talk about Roberts. I'm going to tell you something that you're not going to hear anywhere else, that you must pay attention to. It's well known that Roberts, unfortunately for him, has suffered from epileptic seizures. Therefore he has been on medication. Therefore neurologists will tell you that medication used for seizure disorders, such as epilepsy, can introduce mental slowing, forgetfulness and other cognitive problems. And if you look at Roberts' writings you can the cognitive disassociation in what he is saying.

  162. Namio  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:20 pm

    Don't know if these were posted yet.

    Former GOP Spokesperson Calls For Armed Uprising In Response To Obamacare Decision
    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/06/28/obamacare_uprisin/

    GOP Congressman Mike Pence: SCOTUS Obamacare Ruling Just Like 9/11
    http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/gop-congressman-mike-pence-scotus-obamacare-ruling-just-like-911/politics/2012/06/28/42380

  163. Allen  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:27 pm

    I don't know the proper format, but I found this one:

    "Sorry all, but even if we get everything we want in the house, the senate and the White House, and it is repealed on President Romney’s first day, the idea of a FREE America died today. It didn’t die because we didn’t exersize due vigilance, it was GANG RAPED TO DEATH BY A FUCKING SUPREME COURT WHO REWROTE IT FROM THE BENCH TO TURN IT INTO SOMETHING THEY FELT THEY COULD LIVE WITH, WHICH IS NOT WITHIN THEIR POWER!!!!!

    The idea of America just died a horrible death, because the people who were supposed to protect the Constitution that upholds that ideal just made it known that the power brokers can do whatever they want, and WE THE PEOPLE are POWERLESS and VOICELESS……

    WELCOME TO THE NEW FASCIST DICTATORSHIP, FOLKS!!!! ENJOY THE DEATH PANELS, HAVING ILLEGAL VOTERS IMPORTED BY THE POWERS THAT BE TO DILUTE YOUR VOICE AND YOUR VOTE, AND WHERE THE GOVERNMENT CAN OPENLY SUPPLY WEAPONS TO A GENOCIDE ON OUR OWN BORDERS, WITH NO OTHER REPERCUSSION THAN SOME BAD PRESS FROM ONE OR TWO MEDIA OUTLETS, TOPS……."

    Ahem.

  164. Namio  •  Jun 28, 2012 @9:31 pm

    Oh, Godwin. You are the gift that keeps on giving.

    "Paul Walker · Subscribe · Top Commenter
    Christian, Think of it like this: If we were in Germany in the 1930's/40's and the government demanded you support their ideas (which they did) and you were to go against those ideas that they had 'in your best interest' – Then you'd be punished, usually by death. – The US Governmnet has just told the American people 'you will do what we tell you to do, or we will punish you.' – It's not different. The punishment might be different, but the idea is the same. This isn't a 'tax' as Roberts tried to explain, this is a punishment for not buying something from a private entity. It's them saying 'do as we say' to the people, or suffer the wrath of our soliders (the IRS in this case). – The government just told you at gunpoint that you MUST buy healthcare or pay a fee. That just screams of liberty, doesn't it?"

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/06/28/scotus_decision_obamacare/

  165. Z  •  Jun 28, 2012 @10:01 pm

    Can we do KHAAAN and counter-snark? Because this was golden.

    http://wonkette.com/476770/rightwing-bloggers-shocking-discovery-john-roberts-blackmailed#idc-cover

    " I was worried before, now more than ever. I really think the country as we know it is over. We’re no longer the land of the free.

    My emotions are strange. I don’t feel anger or anything like that. I’m genuinely sad. I think the USA has been changed in a way that can’t be undone.

    Will my kids be okay?

    What can I do to protect my kids from the government?

    All we can do is try to fix this with Congress. It’s all we can even hope for. So, I guess I’ll do my part. I’m going to Tweet, Facebook, write letters, make phone calls, blog, heckle politicians, recruit friends, organize Tea Parties. I am going to do everything in my legal power to vote every leftist out of office this November. I will work tirelessly to this end.

    I think this is the day America died. So first, I’ll be sad for a day. "

    To which a commenter replies:

    "Don't be sad Harry. America is in heaven now with Grandma and Jesus…and your old dog, Blue, is there too. And they're looking down us now thinking how silly it is for us to look all sad in the puss because, hey, they're not sad. No America isn't sad that it died and went to polity heaven and left you behind because America, like Grandma, was often irritated by your whining and your obstinate refusal to perceive reality. America was tired, tired of you and your kind but also just bone tired of struggling to keep it together for as long as she did. "

  166. Colin  •  Jun 28, 2012 @10:58 pm

    Techinically you didn't say it had to be about health, just come after. So we've got (over the Arizona ruling and Obama's reaction):

    http://www.conservativenewsandviews.com/2012/06/28/constitution/obama-to-arizona-drop-dead/#more-4635

    " Never before in American history has any Administration ignored statutory law and the supreme law of the land, the Constitution. The tyrant occupying the Oval Office and his administration arrogance reach a point of treason… Obviously, no one told the two-bit Marxist usurper illegally occupying the oval office that the sovereign States created the federal government, not the other way around. (Mr. Justice Antonin Scalia came close.) Though it may come as a shock to this Marxist administration, we are still a Republic. "

  167. ouzelum bird  •  Jun 28, 2012 @11:25 pm

    I adore the "black-robed Sith Lords!!" one; I'm willing to forgive the error in canon. Still, here's another, from some excitable persons at one of those typographically interesting sites:

    freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2900420/posts

    "I plan to do this whenever stateside. I will fill my shopping basket to the brim with stuff. If it is a small business shop owned by one local owner, and this owner is at the cash register, I will ask them in a very stone, neutral, non-commital face, "hey so, like, what do you think of this Obamacare anyway?"
    If I get any "well, seems good for the country", or "I guess he is doing a good job" or any other of that liberal crap, without a SINGLE WORD I am going to leave the filled basket representing lots of bucks in potential sales, right smack there at the register (on the counter, what not) and not saying a word, walk right out. I intend to do it when other people are in line, too. I'm going guerilla in the trenches now, against my "fellow Americans" who want to take us into Socialism along with their phony, narcissist dictgator of a leader. That's MY statement. Screw em. Same with those of you firing liberal employees. Make sure you are covered for lawsuits, and do it. Make these people pay for their sins against the Republic and the Forefathers."

  168. todd  •  Jun 28, 2012 @11:38 pm

    Gotta love Assemblyman Tim Donnelly's subtlety and nuance: "Obamacare is the Trojan horse of socialism.:

    http://arc.asm.ca.gov/member/59/?p=article&sid=427&id=252327

  169. Sari Everna  •  Jun 29, 2012 @1:13 am

    Since it's a set someone else has collected, I imagine this doesn't count, but I think you will find this entertaining anyway: http://failbook.failblog.org/2012/06/28/funny-facebook-fails-ten-tweets-about-obamacare/

    I would also like to add that my head just about exploded when I found out people were threatening to move to Canada over this, and I lost it when more than one of them cited America becoming "too socialist"(or variants thereof) for this threat. I kind of hope they try it; just knowing how horrified they would be when they finally figured it out fills me with perverse glee, as does the knowledge that there is no industrialized nation to which they could move without being equally offended.

  170. flip  •  Jun 29, 2012 @4:03 am

    I can't provide anything other than this:

    As someone living in a country with socialised medicine, I honestly think all the rhetoric and comments above are even nuttier than they probably sound to more reasonable Americans. The above comments show an incredible amount of ignorance of other countries and the fact they haven't 'died' because of health care; along with an incredible amount of belief in their echo chamber where anything they don't like is somehow communism or fascism. I always worry about travelling to the US because it would be inconceivable to me to be billed 469K for life-saving surgery. I have more choice in medical options than I would if I were American – and I live in a democratic society.

    It boggles my mind that some people out there would rather go broke paying for surgery than pay a little in taxes for decent health insurance. These people are just so… full of hot air. Their arguments aren't even arguments, just ad homenims and non sequiters.

    I honestly think all of them should win: although the one about this ruling being like the holocaust is probably the 'best' of the lot.

  171. Damian P.  •  Jun 29, 2012 @5:00 am

    Leave it to Salon.com to host the sorest of the sore winners:

    http://www.salon.com/2012/06/28/john_roberts_no_liberal_hero/

    "Roberts has this extraordinary degree of power because our political process remains committed to an absurd system of judicial review, in which someone like Roberts gets to 'interpret' an unavoidably ambiguous 220-year-old document, written at a time and place that had less in common with America in 2012 than it did with England in 1500. Under such interpretive conditions, it’s inevitable that 'the Constitution' ends up meaning pretty much what John Roberts thinks it ought to mean."

  172. Nicholas Weaver  •  Jun 29, 2012 @5:14 am

    The conservative intellectual KHHHAAANN from the National Review:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/304311/chief-justice-roberts-s-folly-editors

    In today’s deeply disappointing decision on Obamacare, a majority of the Supreme Court actually got the Constitution mostly right. The Commerce Clause — the part of the Constitution that grants Congress the authority to regulate commerce among the states — does not authorize the federal government to force Americans to buy health insurance. The Court, by a 5–4 margin, refused to join all the august legal experts who insisted that of course it granted that authorization, that only yahoos and Republican partisans could possibly doubt it. It then pretended that this requirement is constitutional anyway, because it is merely an application of the taxing authority. Rarely has the maxim that the power to tax is the power to destroy been so apt, a portion of liberty being the direct object in this case.

    {got it off of boingboing}

  173. Damian P.  •  Jun 29, 2012 @5:33 am

    "Talk radio host Michael Savage told his listeners today that the use of mind-altering drugs to treat seizures could explain why Bush-appointed Chief Justice John Roberts upheld Obamacare today along with four liberal colleagues."

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/michael-savage-roberts-affected-by-medication/

  174. Marzipan  •  Jun 29, 2012 @5:53 am

    From Ilya Shpairo of the Cato Institute:

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/28/opinion/shapiro-health-ruling/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

    "Today's heart-wrenching, baby-splitting Supreme Court decision illegitimately rewrote the Affordable Care Act in order to save it."

  175. Marzipan  •  Jun 29, 2012 @6:22 am

    And for some overweening self-satisfaction, Michael Moore's Huffington Post piece:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-moore/supreme-court-health-care_b_1636096.html

    Some choice quotes (with formatting preserved from the original:

    "The right-wing knows this and they are probably unraveling in some not-so-pretty ways right now. And that's why today is a great day. The Right has been smacked down by one of their own!"

    "The split we have in America can be boiled down in its simplest form to this: On one side are the people who believe Adam and Eve rode on dinosaurs 6,000 years ago — and then there's everyone else."

    "The rich's only obstacle is that they only hold 1% of the votes in the country. So they have to try to get a slim majority of Americans to vote their way. And fear, plus keeping them stupid, usually works."

  176. Richard  •  Jun 29, 2012 @7:03 am

    @Marzipan – Love how Michael Moore is making it "Us vs. Them" where "Us" is "the 99%" and "Them" is "the 1%"

    Because I'm sure that Michael Moore makes less than the… what was it? $300,000/yr to be in the 1%?

    Then again, this is nothing new for Michael Moore.

  177. Grifter  •  Jun 29, 2012 @7:25 am

    Some last minute yahoo goodness (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/look-ruling-upholding-obamacare-145934906.html)
    "
    Mister Volare
    liberals have sold their souls and americas freedoms for gays ,illegals and socialism
    BOB
    that is who most of the liberals are
    "

  178. Patrick  •  Jun 29, 2012 @7:35 am

    STOP! JUDGE!

    Results may take a few hours.

  179. Sharon W.  •  Jun 29, 2012 @9:01 am

    From Twitter…makes me wonder why Viagra is subsidized by insurance.

    rob delaney ‏@robdelaney
    Watching GOP slam Obamacare, which they invented & til recently, publicly jerked off to, is giving me a boner that may require medical attn.

  180. Shawn  •  Jun 29, 2012 @10:19 am
  181. David Smith  •  Jun 29, 2012 @10:21 am

    GOD DAMN THE SUPREMES

    Not very original, but very, very, very, sincere.

  182. Patrick  •  Jun 29, 2012 @11:20 am

    We have a winner.

    The winner will be announced in a separate post as soon as he or she accepts the prize.

  183. AlphaCentauri  •  Jun 29, 2012 @11:22 am

    I haven't read the whole thing, but correct me if I"m wrong: Unlike Medicare, which even Christian Scientists have to pay into, can't all these whiners effectively opt out by creating a buying group with minimal coverage, so everyone would pay his/her own way — so long as the group agrees to cover members with catastrophic illnesses who change their minds and want everyone else to pay for their care without having to pay in when they are healthy?

    At least as things are now, bad insurance is worse than no insurance, since it disqualifies you from most charitable and government plans. That could be their business plan. If they're so confident that true Americans are responsible for their own expenses, they will surely be willing to create a group that will figure out how that works in real life.

  184. David Smith  •  Jun 29, 2012 @11:29 am

    Flip,

    If you don't understand, you never will.

    Many slaves were better off under their masters. They were still slaves.

  185. Dan Weber  •  Jun 29, 2012 @11:40 am

    Unlike Medicare, which even Christian Scientists have to pay into, can't all these whiners effectively opt out by creating a buying group with minimal coverage

    If you run an insurance pool, you almost certainly have to offer mandatory coverage of a whole bunch of things. Remember the birth-control issue from a few months ago? If you google up state insurance mandates you will more examples.

  186. Vomer  •  Jun 29, 2012 @12:14 pm

    From Ben Shapiro at Breitbart.com:

    "This is the greatest destruction of individual liberty since Dred Scott. This is the end of America as we know it. No exaggeration."

    http://static1.firedoglake.com/29/files/2012/06/Screen-shot-2012-06-28-at-7.41.41-AM.png

  187. Z  •  Jun 29, 2012 @12:20 pm

    From an email I just received:

    "We're back in Baltimore. And Obamacare has been upheld. We check our records to see if we'd drowned a few kittens or starved a few orphans to death. We just can't figure out what the heck we did to deserve both these things –Obamacare being upheld and us being in Baltimore — happening at once.

    Most of you reading this aren't suffering in Baltimore. But you will be suffering under Obamacare. Lordy… NDAA 2012, killer drones, the TSA and now medical collectivism billed as yet another tax!

    First we moped about. Then we started looking for house rentals in various Latin American countries. We feel the need to go hide out for a year. To withdraw ourselves from the U.S. and its taxes and its collectivized mandates, its terror drones, its presumptuous politicians and its complicit sheep-people citizenry.

    Quite frankly we're so mad about this that we could spit. It's not like we were all living in a utopia of liberty and limited government before. But this Obamacare is somehow…really insulting."

    They are being more understated than I expected.

  188. Random Encounter  •  Jun 29, 2012 @2:22 pm
  189. AlphaCentauri  •  Jun 30, 2012 @9:07 am

    @Dan Weber True, but never underestimate the creativity of people creating bad insurance. I see lots of people whose colonoscopies, which should be done without any copay under the part of the ACA already in effect, are requiring $2500 copays. They are claiming they aren't done for screening. Their compensation to the gastroenterologists for "screening" vs "routine" colonoscopies is so bizarrely different that they have managed to enlist the doctors against their own patients by having them submit diagnoses, like "abdominal pain" or "constipation" that affect everyone at one point or another.

  190. AlphaCentauri  •  Jun 30, 2012 @9:09 am

    shoot, that should be "screening" vs "diagnostic," miss having preview

  191. flip  •  Jul 1, 2012 @3:19 am

    @David Smith • Jun 29, 2012 @11:29 am

    I certainly won't be convinced using rhetoric. Got an actual argument there because I don't consider you calling me a slave very useful information. I'll admit to not knowing much about the American health system, nor these changes… so try enlightening me with specifics instead of vague allusions.

    At any rate even if 'Obamacare' isn't the best plan, I don't see how anyone can compare it to the end times. Or slavery.

  192. David Smith  •  Jul 2, 2012 @5:25 pm

    Flip,

    I don't want to get into an argument, and this is not an ad hominem. However, my "rhetorical" comment about "you never will" seems to be unpleasantly close to the mark.

    I will try to elaborate w what used to be a very American attitude. I don't care if I am dying in agony from cancer – - the "man", the "baas", the hydra headed committee called "government, does NOT order me to get treatment. I probably will, I don't enjoy pain more than any one else, but it is MY decision. Not some bureaucrat "slaver" or a policy written years ago, thousands of miles away, by some politician w unknown goals who has rendered his own kind immune from his own laws.

    Expansion: The problem is not the Good King. The problem is the Next King.

    Yes, I have an issue about this. 40 years ago I graduated w a degree in aerospace engineering and a case of cancer. Cured, I tried to get work and was told "We can't hire you". It seems in order to protect me the US guvmint (not a mispelling – believe me) had "protected" me by requiring all companies above a certain size, or w guvmint contracts to offer health insurance. I couldn't qualify. IN ADDITION, to "protect" me from undue pressure (which mere mortals just CAN'T hack, I was required to take it.

    I tried claiming religious exemption and everything else I could think of. I went to the ACLU and the attorney told me (and I quote) "Go on welfare kid. You can't work". (actually, I could. All I had to do was find a magic company w fewer than 50 employees, w no health plan, and no government contracts of ANY kind w ANY level of government (city, county, state, federal). OR I could start my own company and roll in my freedom and money.

    I believe it was John Adams who said: "If the government told us when to sow and when to reap, we would soon lack bread".

    The government is NOT smarter than I am and I AM NOT THEIR SLAVE, THEIR WARD, THEIR DAHKEE regardless of how they say it is "for my own good".

  193. flip  •  Jul 2, 2012 @11:31 pm

    @David

    This then is a problem unique to American health services. I am not forced to obtain any kind of medical treatment. I am not forced to seek medical attention at regular intervals. I can seek medical attention whenever I require it. I can even go an entire lifetime without seeing anyone at all and nobody would notice. I am not forced to take any kind of medication. I am not forced to attend a particular doctor, hospital or testing facility. I am not forced to obtain any particular private health insurance (on top of my government issued one I have opted for private health care as well, as is my choice, though I have the option to stick with government-provided only).

    Unless the company I work for requires certain public liability, etc types of insurance, I do not need to sign up for any employer-provided health insurances. In fact, I have never been offered any kind of insurance except for being placed under PL insurance as a normal course of being an employee (this doesn't require me filling out forms or medical checks). Even when I required PL insurance I never needed to submit myself to a health check – only one job required that and it was because I worked a risky job and was on government payroll. I have obtained private PL insurance for my own work and have never needed to submit myself to a health check.

    At no time have I ever been denied treatment or medication that I needed based on… well, anything. At no time have I ever required to submit my treatment requests to anyone other than a pharmacist, testing facility or specialist as required for them to do their jobs. At no time have I ever been required to do anything more than submit a basic background form when attending a physician for the first time, or when obtaining a test as requested by a doctor. I have received many many deductions from many many tests, doctor appointments and hospital admissions simply by having goverment-provided health insurance – and it's saved me a lot of money. For some of the tests I don't even have to pay at all.

    If I don't like a health care policy, I can vote or participate in lobbying. If I don't like the health care services provided, I can voice my concerns (as I have done on one occasion when dealing with a local hospital). I have gone through about 8 doctors in the past few years, trying to find one I like since my original one retired. I have opted to undertake medication for certain conditions and ignored recommendations of doctors on occasions; and never once needed to submit my reasoning to anyone, including said doctors. I have voted with my feet by ignoring pseudoscientific "alternative medicine", despite the fact that I can get deductions on that under my government-provided health insurance. At no time have I ever been pressured into anything, whether it was in order to obtain treatment or to prevent me from getting it.

    The only time I've ever dealt with the government in regards to my health insurance has been: in submission of my taxes, where they calculate any deductions I might be eligible for; in updating my medicare records; in submitting forms for deductions. I can even not submit deduction forms and nobody would notice. It does make things more expensive for me though. The amount of paperwork required by me is no more or less bureacratic than doing my taxes or having private health insurance.

    This is why I am confused at the rhetoric: if people take the time to look at how other countries run their health systems they might realise that ours is nothing like the American version. That you couldn't get a job because they wouldn't deal with your health problems says more about the way American health services are set up than it does about socialised medicine. If that happened here there'd be a riot. There'd be lawsuits. And the government would get kicked out of office.

    I'm not looking for an argument either, just trying to understand your point of view. That you consider my situation akin to slavery is very strange to me. My health insurance is paid via my taxes, just like roads, police and fire brigade. I'm not "forced" to use the fire brigade either, but it certainly comes in handy for emergencies. I've actually required police assistance before, and I use public transport for most travel. In all cases I have a choice to use it, to ignore it, or to supplement it with private services. In all cases the government interferes not one iota with my choices to do so. The only way it "interferes" is in the sense that there are occasionally forms to fill in and taxes to pay; no different than any other country in the world.

    I don't see how socialised medicine is any different. Except of course, that the specifics of how it is applied is important. I do agree that people should be free to choose: I just disagree that socialised medicine hampers that freedom any more than paying taxes for roads does.

  194. David Smith  •  Jul 4, 2012 @11:04 am

    Flip,

    It would seem I was 100% correct.

    "You never will"

    (Last Post – I will not discuss w someone who wants a "just master" more than they want their freedom)

  195. flip  •  Jul 5, 2012 @1:58 am

    Well, you did a great job convincing me with you know… specifics.

    I'd be happy to change my mind. I'd just like to know why I'd be changing it other than rhetoric. Freedom's nice and all, but how can I fight for it if I don't know what to ask for?

    Anyway, since you're quite clearly not going to bother trying, I won't either. I posted my thoughts, you're supposed to respond with yours, not a "I can't be f*d". For someone so interested in fighting for freedom, you're certainly not taking the time to help release a slave.

    Utterly unimpressive debating skills.