#ObamaDogRecipe: first take one dog, then write a DHS grant proposal for $10 million in inner-city 'locavore' cooking classes

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Clark

Clark is an anarchocapitalist, a reader, and a man of mystery. He's not a neoreactionary, but he is Nrx-curious 'til graduation. All he wants for Christmas is for everyone involved in the police state to get a fair trial and a free hanging. Follow him at @clarkhat

26 Responses

  1. Mercury says:

    Damnit, I just made the same point in the comments section of Charles' post. How dare you procrastinate at work more than me!?

    I think I delivered a more thorough ass-kicking and wasted more time however.

  2. Douglas Muth says:

    I'm a regular reader of Popehat, and I find it hilarious that I learned out about this blog post not from checking my RSS feed, but from one of my friends telling me, "Hey, fursuits are mentioned over on Popehat!"

    That said, thanks for clarifying racist/culturalist. That differentiation had not occurred to me before, and it gives me some food for throught when reading criticisms about Obama, or other groups of people.

    — Doug (who happens to organize weekend cons where people wear fursuits…)

  3. Ferin says:

    Interesting article, saw it cause of Dmuth's retweet. sorry for an off topic question, but I can't resist, how did the "wears a fursuit to cons on the weekend" come up?

  4. C. S. P. Schofield says:

    In my experience people who declare against Culturalism are either hard core Culturalists who wish to shame others out of maintaining their Culture and into adopting the 'right' one, or twits who think that a Culture is defined by harmless things like folk songs and 'native' costumes.

  5. Charles says:

    There are levels of cultural practice and if you want to draw a useful line, the food that one eats wouldn't be a part of it. Mapping eccentricities of cultural practice to some grander sense of culture writ large – the differences that would make someone a bad employee or beyond the pale morally – is the essence of racism.

    Saying that it is "culturalism" and not "racism" is pedantic without being a useful distinction, and it becomes a misrepresentation when "cultural practice" is then defined so broadly as to include the things we eat AND the way we respond to stress in the work environment AND the tolerance we have for the subjugation of women.

    All that said, the title of this post is Charles approved. Like you say, associating Obama with the cultural practice despite the notable absence of dog on state dinners is fine and funny… and exactly the joke I didn't find offensive in my post.

  6. Sam Devol says:

    he's a member of the American leftist culture
    Now I'm insulted.

  7. Goober says:

    Huh. And all this time I thought i was racist for being against honor killings, female genital mutilation, and blood fueding.

    Damn.

  8. Clark says:

    @ferin:

    > I can't resist, how did the "wears a fursuit to cons on the weekend" come up?

    Employee wore a "brownshirts" t-shirt to work. I noticed, started talking geek to him. He mentioned that he's pretty deep in the geek scene and goes to cons…even going this coming weekend! I asked innocently "which ones?". He hesitated, looked down, said "anthrocon". I said "Ah, that's cool…so what's your favorite Firefly episode?"

    …and, thanked my lucky stars that he was a good employee, because after that disclosure I pretty much could NEVER lay him off without a discrimination lawsuit!

    Note to self: DON'T ASK ANYTHING OF ANYONE.

  9. Scott Jacobs says:

    I can't resist, how did the "wears a fursuit to cons on the weekend" come up?

    They bumped into eat other in line to pick up their 3-day passes…

    :)

  10. Crissa says:

    I think attacking him over dog as food is stupid. At least it isn't racist.

    Post Republican-corporatist apocalypse, tho, dog is probably going to be on the menu.

  11. Scott Jacobs says:

    Post Republican-corporatist apocalypse, tho, dog is probably going to be on the menu.

    I love it that you aren't even bothering to pretend that you're reasonable…

  12. SPQR says:

    Employee wore a "brownshirts" t-shirt to work.

    Uh, Clark … browncoats … I hope.

  13. Fnord says:

    Condemning blood feuds and genital mutilation is good. There are reasons why we don't like those cultural "customs", moral values, even.

    But I'm not sure what reason you'd give for making fun of people who eat dogs, but not people who eat pork, other than "haha look at the funny foreigners."

  14. IGotBupkis, Legally Defined Cyberbully in All 57 States says:

    OK, anyone not GET THE POINT HERE ?

    This information has been around for YEARS. It comes from one of The Great Big 0's books.

    WHY NOW???

    Because it's a response to the idiotic "Romney's Dog" meme that they Left is pushing.

    I know Charles mentions this idea in the Romney's Dog thread, so it's not like you people should be ignorant of it or something.

    My point, basically — this is the hack supporters of both sides working overtime to push forth stupid little memes about the candidates. But "they started it", so the ones that are really petty aren't the ones who came up with this gustatorial silliness, it's the ones who tried to make a stupid National Romney's Vacation moment into some kind of down check on Romney.

    Because it allows people like Jim Treacher to crack jokes that make President Downgrade look sillier than Romney:
    Romney put a dog on top of a car. Obama put a dog on top of rice.

    and
    I strongly encourage @BarackObama's staff and supporters to run with this one: "Well, he hasn't eaten any dogs LATELY."

    The Left is so busy painting its opposition as stupid that it forgets that The Right has some pretty smart and fast thinking people, too.

    When Sen. Ted Kennedy, at the Dem National Convention, quips: "And when the Reagan administration was selling arms to Iran, WHERE WAS GEORGE?"

    There are people on the Right fast enough to turn it into a campaign slogan of their own: "Dry, sober, and at home with his wife."

    … courtesy P.J. O'Rourke.

  15. Scott Jacobs says:

    Why now?

    What, were YOU eager to read the effing thing?

  16. IGotBupkis, Legally Defined Cyberbully in All 57 States says:

    The attacks should be based on substance — on things the candidates do or support that one is in opposition to. Or at least things they say or do on the campaign trail or in a professional capacity.

    Not on their human moments completely outside the campaign itself.

    Hell, something like this is going to backfire even after the jokes, because it's a clear argument against the "Romney Zombie" meme that they've been floating so far. That kind of absurd situation makes Romney look very human.

  17. IGotBupkis, Legally Defined Cyberbully in All 57 States says:

    >>>>>>>> Why now?
    >>> What, were YOU eager to read the effing thing?

    LOL, my money is that someone did, and remembered it, which is why the dog thing is so timely. I'm curious what percentage of lefty spokespeople actually have read any of Rush Limbaugh's books. (Note: not claiming the high ground, here, I haven't read any of Michael Moore's or Al Franken's lefty screeds… and, as a side note, I tend towards libertarianism as my "tag" has suggested openly).

    I just think that one advantage people on the Right have is that they actually bother a lot more to learn what their opposition has to say before refuting it.

  18. Elam Bend says:

    Spqr: that was my worry also. I would definitely want to avoid those cons (at least without my rifle and autonomous ammo dealing vendor bot)

  19. Patrick says:

    All of this talk about the President's habit of eating dogs is distracting America from the issues that matter, like free birth control for Catholic law students, and what criminal punishment is most appropriate for people who invest in commodities futures.

    So I'm closing further comments on this post.

  20. Christopher says:

    I don't think the line between racism and culturalism is as obvious as you make it out to be. Consider the following statement:

    "Those people are all lazy. They don't value hard work like we do."

    Racist or culturalist? You can almost always make a case that any kind of discrimination is cultural, because minority groups tend to form their own subcultures. Even if "those people" means black people, we don't know if the speaker thinks that laziness is a genetic trait, or just something wrong with black culture.

    And then there's the question of whether or not you actually know anything about the culture in question.

  21. Clark says:

    @Christopher:

    "Those people are all lazy. They don't value hard work like we do."

    Racist or culturalist? You can almost always make a case that any kind of discrimination is cultural, because minority groups tend to form their own subcultures. Even if "those people" means black people, we don't know if the speaker thinks that laziness is a genetic trait, or just something wrong with black culture.

    So you suggest…what? That because someone MIGHT be making a falsifiable observation about genetics rather than a falsifiable observation about culture the debate should be anathema?

  22. SarahW says:

    I was taken aback, then rather amused by the seriousness of response to the endless doggy-ribs (mmmm Dog ribs) by those who thought Obama needed defending.

    "He was NINE and Immersed in a different culture" was the general complaint and that the whole series of gags originated in Obama's BRAGGING about immersion in dog-eating culture as if that immersion was feature and not bug. (You noted your disbelief in his internalization of other cultural practices as acceptable – I think maybe there is actually something to being raised with foreign values and sensibilities to one's native land, in a leader of that land)

    That's probably the buried lede in his brag. Obama shall be/ would be/ is a better leader of America precisely because he *has* internalized foreign sensibilities in his formative years and can drag Americans into similar understanding and acceptance. America loses it's strange determination to maintain and inflict its values at home and abroad on those of other cultures and the world is better for it.

    Which, no thank you. If a dog is a pariah or snack in your country, there is something wrong with your country and way of thinking. The end.

  23. Mercury says:

    Let’s all pause to reflect that it took over three months (from Jan 8 when Romney first publicized his silly dog story until a few days ago when the Obama Bites Dog story gained traction) for someone (anyone!) to recall a detail from the most wonderful, best selling book of all time written by the world’s smartest and most eloquent man.

    It’s almost like no one actually read the damn thing in the first place. Just flipping through it and his other autobiography at random you can find one horror after another. The open displays of whining, non-dot-connecting, free lunch seeking, non-job holding and self-pity on display are truly staggering. If Romney really wanted to win he’d buy up air time and just read the damn things cover-to cover on national TV.

  24. Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master says:

    If Romney really wanted to win he’d buy up air time and just read the damn things cover-to cover on national TV.

    What, put everyone to sleep until Prince Charming comes along to give them a kiss? They might miss the election!!
    :D

  25. Crissa says:

    Scott Jacobs… Reasonable?

    I can do math. I don't need to be reasonable with those who refuse to learn.

  26. Christopher says:

    So you suggest…what? That because someone MIGHT be making a falsifiable observation about genetics rather than a falsifiable observation about culture the debate should be anathema?

    No, not at all. Actually, all I'm suggesting is that I happen to think one of your premises is wrong. Specifically:

    "Racism is bad. Culturalism is not…"

    I think that's incorrect. I think the line is a lot blurrier than you think it is, and that there are enough instances of people complaining about cultures they know nothing about that you can't really make these kinds of blanket statements.