Good Americans Don't Criticize The TSA! Only a COMMIE Would Do That!

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  1. You can find all of our TSA coverage

    Did you hit "Publish" before adding the links or did the Politburo get to you?

  2. Ken says:

    Forgot to buy a vowel.

  3. Pakkinpoppa says:

    Ah…air travel…
    Last time I decided to subject myself to a checkpoint to board a privately owned vehicle, I was wearing Cat boots (safety steel toes!) and carrying a Swiss Army Knife. Not the little tiny one with the nailfile, no, the Tinker model with the pliers.

    I only carried it because I was headed to NYC to visit family, with my family, and at the time was under the impression that a blade which locked open was "verboten" in that area. It was returned to me after walking through the metal detector, and yes, I did remove my boots because of the toes.

    I haven't flown since, that's been about 12 years ago. I have no real need to fly anyplace at the moment. If that changes, well, the boots go with me, but I'll have to check my bag.

    Honestly, why people subject themselves to such intrusion says quite a lot about how far we've gone as a people.

    To be fair, I have been through metal detectors more recently, but that was due to having to go to court to get custody of my son…another story for another day.

  4. Mike says:

    Your co-blogger Patrick and I have the irony of having to turn to the Russian Times for any decent reporting on the U.S.

  5. VPJ says:

    I love irony. I savor the sweet, sweet flavor of contrary expectations generated by–what? She had to publish it where?

    I think I just OD'd on irony. I gotta go lie down for a minute.

  6. Beauzeaux says:

    I see that she is represented by the redoubtable Marc J. Randazza — a name that strikes fear in the hearts of bully boys (and girls) everywhere.
    Good for her.

  7. Luna_the_cat says:

    I reserve judgement on the Pravda, given that I've seen some of the drek they've published in the past. I have no doubt that they are publishing this simply because such an embarrassment to America is too ripe and juicy a tidbit to pass up. But primarily, I am horrified and profoundly disturbed that this is the only venue that would publish Amy Alkon's story. That's just effing wrong.

    I see things like that, and like http://www.tpalexanders.com/2011/10/19/the-constitution-breaks-bad-in-albuquerque/ , and I wonder just where America is headed next. But not in a good way.

  8. Luna_the_cat says:

    It's also been noted, of course, that power over others coupled with low social status is a combination which seems to push people towards abuse.
    http://edition.cnn.com/2011/09/24/us/california-power-status-study/index.html

    The TSA has set up a situation where abuse is never going to be just a rare anomaly, and this ought to be a surprise to no-one.

  9. C. S. P. Schofield says:

    There's been something weird going on with the media and air travel for a while now, much longer than TSA has been in existence. the vast majority of what I read about air travel (outside of subversive rags like Reason) tended to argue that "deregulation" had failed (in spite of the fact that outside of certain overused corridors prices had dropped), and/or waxing nostalgic about the days when flying was limited to the elite. I have to suspect that a lot of media weenies are happy to see "The Masses" that spoiled Air Travel being mauled about.

    The Media Establishment may talk about the common folk, but if you pay attention you soon notice that they don't really like them much.

  10. EH says:

    "(in spite of the fact that outside of certain overused corridors prices had dropped), and/or waxing nostalgic about the days when flying was limited to the elite."

    Oh, flying used to be a shit-ton more expensive. That's why only the elites you mention could do it. However, that was 35 years ago. I'm not sure that even media weenies have that kind of grudge power.

  11. Mandy says:

    Luna – Ken wrote a piece about how the less "important" someone is, the more they huff and puff about their authority. I don't remember the name of the post but the content basically said that the FBI agent isn't going to get in your face about who he is and how much power he has. It's going to be some pissant nobody that does that. It was a good post; maybe you can find it.

  12. mojo says:

    The best way to avoid unwanted groping by the TSA is probably to act like you love it, and ask for more.

    Enjoying it really bums the bastards out. You're not supposed to.

  13. Luna_the_cat says:

    @Mandy, @Scott,

    Indeed, that's exactly the thing I was thinking of. Shame on me, I should have looked to see if the popehat covered it first!

    (Sorry for the delayed response, btw. Christmas parties.)

  14. Luna_the_cat says:

    Incidentally, I think there is one way in which it's legitimate to say that people resent the fact that more people fly.

    More people fly because it is (in real terms) cheaper than it used to be to fly, on many routes.

    It is cheaper than it used to be, because most airlines have gone with the plan of cramming as many people into each plane as they can physically fit, and then just a few more.

    And, I have to admit, I do resent having only 17 square inches in which to put my legs.

  15. Tam says:

    Luna_the_cat,

    "It is cheaper than it used to be, because…"

    Of deregulation. Without deregulation, there would have been no point in packin' 'em in like sardines, because there was nobody to pack.

  16. Luna_the_cat says:

    @Tam

    I'm not following this. How do you figure? Are you saying that people didn't want to travel before deregulation? What do you attribute to deregulation — what did deregulation remove that helped?

  17. Luna_the_cat says:

    …That's a genuine question, by the way. Airline deregulation is *not* an area I know a huge amount about.

  18. PLW says:

    Price controls and entry restrictions on routes. Under the CAB, a firm could not cut prices or enter a route without the permission of a government board.

  19. Luna_the_cat says:

    "Under the CAB, a firm could not cut prices or enter a route without the permission of a government board."

    …Yeah, that IS daft. I can see where removing that helped the consumer.

    But wasn't that done in 1978, and even then there were also growing numbers of air travelers? I mean, I was flying by 1974 (although I was entirely apolitical back then), and I don't recall airports being exactly deserted. So I'm not convinced by the "nobody to pack in" scenario.

    My thought, though, would be that the continued dropping of prices by airlines through the last couple of decades, especially, could only have been done by cutting costs and hiking capacity — not necessarily by adding new aircraft to the fleet, but by pushing more and more people onto each plane. I mean, they could sell 280 tickets at $400 each, or 455 tickets at $250 each, what do you think they would go for? And it's cheaper for them to redo seating than it is to design more efficient airplanes.

  20. Ken says:

    I would contribute to this discussion, but I edited a detailed article about airline deregulation in a Harvard Law School journal (no, not the Law Review), and as a result I know nothing useful about the subject whatsoever.

  21. DMG says:

    It doesn't help that Amy is a bit of a hack…just saying.

  22. VPJ says:

    Doesn't help your argument that she's non-hackish enough to have been published many times in the same MSM publications that rejected this article.

    And speaking of hacks, have you read some of the NYT columnists?

  23. SPQR says:

    DMG, "just saying" ? Uh, no, just trolling would be more like it.

  24. VPJ says:

    You have got to be kidding me. Someone please tell me I'm reading the Onion.

  25. Tam says:

    Luna_the_cat,

    "My thought, though, would be that the continued dropping of prices by airlines through the last couple of decades, especially, could only have been done by cutting costs and hiking capacity — not necessarily by adding new aircraft to the fleet, but by pushing more and more people onto each plane."

    Yes, because deregulation forced the realities of the marketplace into the formerly tranquil artificial environment. Airlines are now free to compete for your business. The easiest way to do this is by slashing fares. However they have to earn a profit, so if each PAX is paying less to put their butt in a seat, then you need more seats to make the profits that were formerly guaranteed by government fiat.

    (Incidentally, once we peeled all the Nerf padding off the pricing and route selection, profits fell by more than half and inefficient airlines died like flies, but it's still easier and cheaper to fly than ever.)

    Hey, if a Kennedy-hugging pinko like Justice Breyer and a wookie-suited anarchist like me agree on something, there might be something to it. ;)

  26. Jess says:

    I admire Amy for calling it like it is. Meantime for all other ladies that travel I'll make a few suggestions that might help prevent this going forward. First, it's important to note – the TSA cannot touch you without your consent. You may not fly that day but you never have to let them touch you. I find that saying "I'm really sorry to be such an inconvenience but NO I won't go through the scanner". Works well. Second, never ever go through the porno scanner. Third always ask for a private pat down – this way if you need to object to something they can't threaten to have LEO arrest you for disrupting the process of screening other passengers. BTW you have the right to record your private screening. Fourth, wear a nice thick maxipad. If they discover this during the pat down because they are touching somewhere they shouldn't and they ask what is is – simply state it is a feminine pad which you are wearing for reasons that should be obvious to them as women. If they insist you remove it – act amazed and say "what you expect me to soil myself" then insist they call in a law enforcement officer (LEO). Most LEOs are not tolerant of the stupidity of the TSA and can be more easily reasoned with. Remember never raise your voice – act calm at all times and be as pleasant and cooperative as is reasonable. Even though that will be difficult when dealing with TSA personnel who don't follow their own rules. So far, I've only been asked to go through the scanner 4 times. I've opted out all 4 times. Wore a maxipad each time – yet the TSA person pattnig me down never even realized I was wearing one. 4th time the woman went inside along the waistband which I thought was unnecessary. Overall – each of the 4 pat downs was not anything I would consider assault and I don't like to be touched. What is obvious to me is that the TSA is not consistent and that some people have a pat down that is non offensive and other TSA personnel do things they shouldn't.