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To many people, a good criminal justice system is one that produces the result that reinforces their prejudices and expectations, often based on what they've heard from people like Nancy Grace.

Therefore it's hardly surprising that something like this exists: a Facebook "Petition to Retry Casey Anthony." It's possible that it was originally started as satire, or for the lulz. It's even possible that some of the posts and arguments on it are Swiftian. But many supporting it are perfectly sincere and perfectly totalitarian, viewing criminal justice as a sort of high-stakes American Idol. Read it, if you can stomach it, and see the angry, shouting mob. Only mere chance, and the rule of law, stand between you and that mob. The mob sees itself as patriotic — its members wave flags on the Fourth of July and have appropriate decals and magnets on their cars and stands for the National Anthem. But the mob rejects the concepts at the heart of America — indeed, the concepts at the heart of Western Civilization — in favor of the raging, incoherent I want.

Read it also for curious notions of federal jurisdiction, the Dual Sovereign Doctrine, double jeopardy (which, we are told, does not apply when the defendant did not previously offer a defense she offered for the first time at trial), and civilization. Read it, consider that these people sometimes vote, and reconsider whether it's really so ridiculous for people like me to advocate minimum possible government control over citizens.

Via Radley Balko.

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19 Comments

19 Comments

  1. Contracts  •  Jul 15, 2011 @10:18 am

    So far, this is my favorite one, from Charlotte DelGaico: "First degree murder is a federal offense! Casey also violated The Martha Stewart Law when she lied to the FBI during the investigation. She can be indicted by the U.S. Attorney on multiple counts each coming with a 5 year sentence. GIVE CAYLEE THE JUSTICE SHE DESERVES!"

  2. anoNY  •  Jul 15, 2011 @10:22 am

    "viewing criminal justice as a sort of high-stakes American Idol. "

    After watching some of the coverage of the trial, I know where they get it from!

  3. Wilhelm Arcturus  •  Jul 15, 2011 @10:39 am

    So that whole, "It's better to let n guilty men go free than to convict a single innocent man" thing, where n is an integer between 4 and 100, that they espoused in 8th grade civics seems to have conditions.

    My teacher did not get to the "unless a child is involved" or "unless of course we all just know the person is as guilty as sin" corollaries.

    Fortunately, the next internet petition I hear about that actually changes something will be the first.

    I'm still waiting for the calls to string up the jury.

  4. firehat  •  Jul 15, 2011 @10:40 am

    So what you're saying is, you support child murder?

  5. Allen Varney  •  Jul 15, 2011 @10:50 am

    I'm not seeing how avocacy of "minimum possible governmental control over citizens" follows from a demonstration that citizens are prone to vengeful mobbery. What, because in the next election these same virulent yahoos will unite and vote for a Huey Long demagogue? The more pressing danger is when they're currently mulling over whether to lynch you. Then you'd (or at least I'd) prefer, for those particular citizens, quite a decent amount of governmental control.

  6. CTrees  •  Jul 15, 2011 @10:53 am

    You say this now Ken, but just watch! You'll change your tune when you're seeking justice for your poor, defenseless child after its been murdered by… um… you…

    That… didn't go where I expected…

  7. Linus  •  Jul 15, 2011 @11:16 am

    They're giving the word "mob" a bad name.

  8. mojo  •  Jul 15, 2011 @11:37 am

    Well, I for one don't intend to stand here and listen to you bad-mouth the United States! GOOD DAY, sir!

  9. John Farrier  •  Jul 15, 2011 @1:25 pm

    Read it, consider that these people sometimes vote, and reconsider whether it’s really so ridiculous for people like me to advocate minimum possible government control over citizens.

    When arguing for minimal government in blog comment debates over the years, I've often proposed that one advantage to libertarian governance is that you don't have to fear that state when you're out of power. Whatever other problems may ensue, getting tossed in prison for one's beliefs or robbed by politicians won't be among them.

    The reaction, both from the Left and the Right, has tended to be "so what?"

    That this argument seems to have no traction at all baffles me. Perhaps it never occurs to them that the angry mob may come for them, or they're willing to bear with that problem until they return to power.

  10. C. S. P. Schofield  •  Jul 15, 2011 @2:12 pm

    There is a wonderful book on the behavior of mobs; THE RABBLE ROUSERS by Eric Frank Russell. Unfortunately it was only published once (1964), so it can be hard to find, but interlibrary loan is your friend there.

    It has chapters on the Sacco and Vanzetti circus, the Florida Land Boom, Rudolph Valentino's funeral, the Dreyfus Affair in France, and others. It is bitterly, blackly funny, and well worth finding.

    I wish to hell that somebody would see to re-printing the thing.

  11. Bruce  •  Jul 15, 2011 @5:50 pm

    Consider how much worse it would be if these people were forced to vote.

    We have so few murders with telegenic victims here and our courts don't allow cameras inside so that particular brand of circus is unlikely to eventuate. However, the local arm of a News company does like to beat up Laura Norder stories.

    "Offender will be out in " is a common headline with little mention of actual sentence vs minimum sentence, time already served etc.

    The worst case in recent memory was a man who threw his daughter off a bridge, but his mere life sentence was apparently too lenient and demonstrated a 'loophole' in our justice system too.

  12. Scott Jacobs  •  Jul 15, 2011 @9:29 pm

    "And these people VOTE" has been a lament of mine for years…

    These assholes are just furthering my dismay…

  13. Old Geezer  •  Jul 15, 2011 @9:37 pm

    And I see in the news that people are attacking Casey Anthony look-alikes in towns as far away as Oklahoma even though she is still in custody in Florida.

  14. Timothy Watson  •  Jul 16, 2011 @3:44 am

    My favorite post, in response to someone who brought up double jeopardy: "well in the Constitution it says that murder is illegal yet she got away with it"

    I think that whole group is perfect example of Poe's Law of course.

  15. C. S. P. Schofield  •  Jul 16, 2011 @4:13 pm

    "And these people vote!"

    Mencken's definition of Democracy; "The theory that the common man knows what he wants, and deserves to get it, good and hard."

  16. Dan Weber  •  Jul 17, 2011 @5:22 am

    The Casey-Anthony-look-alike attack may have been just a rumor. http://www.antimusic.com/news/11/july/ts15Casey_Anthony_Look-Alike_Attack_Story_Debunked.shtml

  17. marco73  •  Jul 19, 2011 @5:28 am

    On Monday night, all I wanted to do was check if the Rays held on against the Yankees (they lost dammit.)
    It was Casey Casey Casey for the first 11 minutes of a 22 minute newscast. A reporter in Tampa was interviewing a reporter in Arizona because a private plane from the Orlando area stopped for fuel in Arizona, and the rumor was that Casey is now in Arizona. The Arizona reporter even had man-in-the-street interviews with people who didn't want Casey in their community because she was dangerous.
    Please, God, send us a hurricane or a fire or something to shut these people up!

  18. Jim  •  Sep 15, 2011 @11:17 am

    My favorite part is: " the Dual Sovereign Doctrine, double jeopardy (which, we are told, does not apply when the defendant did not previously offer a defense she offered for the first time at trial)" what does this even mean? where in law does it come from? On petition said we should just suspend the 5th amendment. Got lover the haters so little knowledge so much hate.

  19. Jim  •  Sep 17, 2011 @12:01 am

    Great article and your right the stupid mob mentality would be fun if it weren't so true. 50 years ago it was an embarrassment not to know anything about your country's laws or govt. now these haters see it as a badge of honor!