I Was Totally Rockin' On HBO's New "Son Of Man" Series, And Then They Killed The Main Character!!!

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  1. Oh that made me laugh!

    I'm waiting for the series to get to Netflix before I watch it, but otherwise I seem to be covered by all three points as well.

  2. Ken says:

    These people are going to shit blood if they make it halfway through Season Three.

  3. ZK says:

    The "Wedding of A Slightly Unusual Color" comes to mind.

  4. Chris Berez says:

    The funny thing is that pretty much everyone goes through that anger at that part of AGOT. I finally convinced a friend of mine to give the series a shot, and when she got to that part, I practically had to talk her off of a ledge.

    And yeah, the Red Wedding is [em]really[/em] going to upset some people (although, to be fair, another certain individual's wedding is going to make a lot of people extremely happy).

  5. Scott Jacobs says:

    The second wedding you mention made me actually yell "WOOHOO!!" like I was channeling Homer Simpson.

    As for the wedding of a slightly unusual color, it is POSSIBLE that I started to google for Martin's home address. Thankfully, my sanity returned…

  6. Scott Jacobs says:

    These people are going to shit blood if they make it halfway through Season Three.

    I am wondering how I can get video feeds from the homes of all of these people just so I can see their reactions to the scene to which you refer…

    Also, a certain character in book 2 and his actions at a certain place will also cause much butthurt.

  7. Ken says:

    Also, a certain character in book 2 and his actions at a certain place will also cause much butthurt.

    Umm — another Renly sex scene?

  8. Scott Jacobs says:

    Them's what do not sow do something mean.

    I can hear the internet rage already, and I am loving it…

  9. IgotBupkis, President, United Anarchist Society says:

    I have to say that I concur, when the whiners get to the later parts of the books, well, they will be most unhappy.
    I've found this to be the real problem with quality TV — it's like most people can no longer accept ANYTHING which they cannot predict the entire flow from the first half-hour of the show. The cannot accept it if they can't pigeonhole every character from the pilot episode. Either of those things happen, the show is doomed, because they aren't about to give it a chance to keep and hold their interest. The power of GRRM's stuff is that just when you think you have an idea where things are going to go… how he intends to put the whole story together, BOOM, someone dies and you're going, "WtF? WtF? NOW how is it going to end, dammit!?!" That flies in the face of the average idiot TV viewer nowadays, and pushes all TV into a formulaic hell.

  10. Ken says:

    I’ve found this to be the real problem with quality TV — it’s like most people can no longer accept ANYTHING which they cannot predict the entire flow from the first half-hour of the show.

    My dear wife is quite smart; she has a doctorate. But she likes happy endings on TV, and hates ambiguous endings. We both like "Castle," but she's always asking why Beckett and Castle can't get together. She doesn't like me "because Moonlighting sucked after David and Maddie got together" answers.

  11. Chris Berez says:

    Them’s what do not sow do something mean.

    Haha yeah, pretty much every time that character's been on screen this season I yell expletives at the TV. His sister is pretty awesome, though.

  12. Scott Jacobs says:

    The start of book two gets really creepy with that… And funny as hell.

    See, I liked the guy in the first book, I really did.

    Which made book two really amazing.

    The way Martin is EAGER to murder and fuck with his darlings is really nice to see. The only true lesson I have learned from these books is "Don't get too attached…"

  13. Noble says:

    "When you play the Game of Thrones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground."

    I haven't watch the GoT series and go into it with the same trepidation as the LoTR movies, etc. These books are sacred ground to me. Though, I'm sure I'll break down eventually.

    That being said, if (the rhetorical) you can't take valiant heroes and rotten scoundrels dying like dogs every few episodes (like real war), this might not be the series for you.

  14. SPQR says:

    I am a George R.R. Martin fan, but Game of Thrones lost me a couple of books in.

    I guess the War of the Rose "homage" was not subtle enough for me.

  15. Scott Jacobs says:

    Give it another go, SPQR. It really is very good.

    I tend to not like that type of book (only other one that got me was Wheel of Time, and Jordan ruined even that), but this one really has me hooked…

    Is it July yet?

  16. SPQR says:

    Scott, Jordan was an overrated writer IMO. Funny thing about Wheel of Time, Brandon Sanderson has been finishing it, and doing a better job. Which is a pleasant surprise.

    I'm still shocked at losing Joel Rosenberg.

    Scott, have you tried Steven Erikson's /Ian Esslemont's series? Start with Erikson's Garden of the Moon.

  17. Xmas says:

    Actually, I think more people are going to be shocked at what happens with Sansa real soon now, if the show gets into Joffrey's displays of love and affection for her.

    I do like how the TV show makes Catelyn Stark the source of so much trouble. She's never had to worry about the consequences of her actions, so she lacks any sort of subtly. She has Ned's firm belief that doing the "right" thing will lead to the right results, but she lets her temper get the best of her. Her sister though…so much creepier seeing her acted out.

    Unfortunately, the show is glossing over the political maneuvering a bit too much. The assignment of lordships, elevations to nobility, and all those puzzle clues to try and figure out who was behind this action or that. I think this is why they've exposed Littlefinger as a complete bastard so early in the story. In the first book, he was slimy and seemed to be saving his own skin. He wasn't exposed as a complete bastard until the 3rd book (? or was it the 4th?).

  18. Scott Jacobs says:

    Scott, Jordan was an overrated writer IMO. Funny thing about Wheel of Time, Brandon Sanderson has been finishing it, and doing a better job. Which is a pleasant surprise.

    I liked the first 4 or 5 books, but I think it was book 6 during some conversation between Rand and one of those White Tower women, I literally skipped about 15 pages, and I swear I missed nothing.

    The guy just started to flog the dead horse to sell more books, and they just got too boring for me. I was actually glad when he died, because it meant the books might well END.

    I was very happy to hear that Brandon ended up being the guy to finish though. He does a very short weekly podcast called "Writing Excuses" ("15 minutes long, because you're in a hurry, and we're not that smart") with Howard Taylor and another writer, and it's actually pretty good. They cover different topics related to writing fiction – very good stuff, and often quite funny.

    Late next week I should have my own Kindle, so I'll be sure to check out those authors. And see if I can find Joel's stuff in Kindle format.

    And I just found out that Koontz actually DID do more than the first two Frankenstein novels. While I usually don't care for his stuff, they were actually pretty good, so it looks like I need to get the first two again, and then get 3 through 5.

  19. Grandy says:

    I really don't think it was a simple case of Jordan trying to bilk fans/make as much monies as possible. I could be wrong, but until I see evidence to suggest otherwise I see a guy who was writing the story he wanted to write with editors who were increasingly unwilling or unable to get him to cut filler.

    I mean, there's like a MONUMENTALLY Huge event in book 10ish. One of the problems over the second half of the series is the amount of stuff between the real action. So this was really exciting if you were still invested in the series as this had been telegraphed a couple of times.

    Then the next book comes out. And I swear to Bob the book consists of the reactions of nearly every other major character/faction in the world to this event (for many, they only have a vague sense that "something happened"). Oh, there's plotting and some action scenes. But one of the big deals for many characters in the book is "what do we do about that ZOMG what happedn?". And the answers varied from "well, I'm not sure we can trust that what you say happened, happened. But, uh, good job on that." to "well, I guess we need to send a delegate to go talk to this one faction about that, huh?".

    It was comical.

  20. Scott Jacobs says:

    I suppose it could be the fault of editors, but what scares me is this: what if what we got HAD been cut down?

    I mean, there’s like a MONUMENTALLY Huge event in book 10ish.

    What, does Rand "take Mat roughly from behind"?

    Because if not, I'm just not interested… :)