In Which We Lose Our Funding And Are Reduced To Eating Gravel

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15 Responses

  1. Retardo says:

    Agreed.

    But that Juliette P. White, I'd do her in a minute. No sense throwing the baby out with the bath water.

  2. Patrick says:

    My closest brush with Public Citizen was an argument with its Twitter account over the Citizens United decision and…

    Well, I know the Twitter account is handled by some intern, but it is a primary internet voice for Public Citizen, and let's say on a whole range of issues relating to free speech ("hate speech", religious speech, political speech paid for by individuals out of their own pocket, political advertising) having nothing to do with whether corporations have rights similar to those of non-artificial people, I found Public Citizen wanting.

    Where money is concerned I'll stick with the ACLU, the NRA, FIRE, and CATO (which makes me a KOCH BROTHERS STOOGE!) thank you sir. At least their Twitter accounts don't want to prosecute me for what I write on Twitter.

  3. Ken says:

    Patrick, I don't support their views on Citizens United, corporate speech, or similar issues either. But then, I don't agree with the ACLU or the NRA or CATO on everything either. Public Citizen does good work in this area.

  4. rmv says:

    Wait a minute.

    How can I get some of those checks? I want to be a paid shill instead of suffering from that consciousness thing.

  5. SPQR says:

    Pshaw, I get two hippies punched for each of my shill posts.

  6. PLW says:

    Econ 101-As the sole buyer of Libertarian shillery, Koch Bros. can increase their consumer surplus by price discriminating. You must have a more elastic supply, SPQR.

  7. TehKochtopus says:

    WE ARE WATCHING.

  8. Patrick says:

    Patrick, I don’t support their views on Citizens United, corporate speech, or similar issues either. But then, I don’t agree with the ACLU or the NRA or CATO on everything either. Public Citizen does good work in this area.

    I'd have passed on comment but for this.

    Throw them a few shekels while you are there if you can.

    A recommendation with which I strongly disagree. Sure they've done good work, but they've done, and do, as much bad work as good, which is something I wouldn't (and I suspect you wouldn't) say about any of the other organizations I named.

    EXCEPT FOR DEFENDING CERTAIN FORMS OF (generally) UTTERLY CONVENTIONAL SPEECH OF THE SORT WHICH GETS BROADCAST ON JON STEWART AND COLBERT EVERY NIGHT BUT DOESN'T GET THEM SUED BECAUSE THEY HAVE LAWYERS ON RETAINER…

    Public Citizen has a rather lousy record on speech issues. Yeah, they've defended a few internet-buzzworthy claims against bloggers who wrote satire or serious commentary on their side of the aisle, SLAPPS one and all. Boo-yah!

    I'll give them money, and I'll recommend giving them money, when they defend Nazis marching on Skokie, or a Fred Phelps: when, like say the Institute for Justice, they take a case that wouldn't have their supporters yelling Boo-yah!

    Until then, I'll give to the ACLU or IOJ or any other number of other charities.

    It just seems misleading not to tell people who want to donate their "shekels" to a corporation that supports free speech that the corporation in question also argues that it's constitutional for the government to dictate the contents of restaurant menus.

    If I weren't an informed consumer, Public Citizen would fully support my right to sue you for failing to give that warning.

  9. Ken says:

    That's a fair criticism, Patrick. Concerned consumers can review their web site and see the sort of litigation they've been involved in and determine whether the good outweighs the bad.

  10. G Thompson says:

    I think America should get a Federal Anti-SLAPP statute if not for the obvious reason that until that happens all these censorious goons (as you so eloquently put it. me I would of been harsher) will continue to be publicly SLAPPED up the back of the head until they see sense or at the least lots of ridicule.

    Maybe Public Slapping should be included in any Anti-SLAPP statute for repeat offenders anyway ;)

  11. perlhaqr says:

    Pshaw, I get two hippies punched for each of my shill posts.

    How does one sign up for hippie punching duty? Can I simply volunteer? Is there a formal interview process?

  12. piperTom says:

    From http://www.citizen.org/Page.aspx?pid=496
    "Public Citizen's energy and climate program advocates for affordable, clean and sustainable energy. We safeguard families by promoting the strong regulation of energy markets,…"

    Uh, oh!

    /self-indictment enough?
    // also worthy of a "few shekles" : Reason foundation (reason.com)

  13. SPQR says:

    perlhaqr, I don't know. I contract it out these days. Because of the self-importance, you know.

  14. Matt says:

    As for me, the Koch brothers can keep their money. Or use it to pay more people to punch more hippies. Either way, the nation is better off. I'd just spend it on alcohol, tobacco, and firearms. :)

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