So Apparently Theft, Snivelling, And Nutjobbery Are Patriotic Now

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41 Responses

  1. Adam says:

    It seems to me that common Internet courtesy would be to quote a portion of the article, link to the article, and then offer your observations on the article.

    Offering a measly link hardly drives traffic to the content provider, especially when people can view the full article without even going to the source.

    The real-world equivalent would be someone turning in a paper that you wrote to their professor, with a note in the bibliography sourcing the entire work to you.

  2. banshee says:

    Jeez. Sounds like he'd daring you to sue. I'd talk to an IP lawyer. You KNOW that being a "patriot"does not render one exempt from IP law.

  3. Lynn says:

    Another Judith Griggs. Great.

  4. LabRat says:

    Thought one: this needs to be framed and hung under a nice needlepoint "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" sampler.

    Thought two: Ken's got to be a frigging warrior.

  5. Paws says:

    The term "batshit crazy" comes to mind….

  6. SPQR says:

    He's a punk, Ken. Do a DMCA notice to his ISP.

  7. Linus says:

    "Ken, you are, like, the TENTH person whose birdbath I've crapped in, and none of THEM have complained!" Persuasive.

  8. GeekChick says:

    "Normally I’d have to go to the World of Warcraft forums and advocate nerfing paladins to draw that level of socially dysfunctional sputtering outrage and odd entitlement."

    Just to let you know I blew ramens through my nose when I read that :)

  9. Rich Rostrom says:

    One question: what should one do when one finds some real gem on a site that is moribund, and possibly soon to be deleted?

    There are millions of abandoned blogs and websites. Many have gone off the Web. Some authors are no longer with us, and it's unlikely an heir (if any) will take the trouble to preserve the content and keep it accessible.

    Is it appropriate to save such content, and republish it (with proper attribution) if the original publication goes dark?

  10. jfoobar says:

    OK, the "nerf paladins" slapdown was epic. +1

  11. G Thompson says:

    Having the bard referenced in here reminds me of an appropriate response to Mr Croft

    "Thou smell of mountain goat." (Henry V)

    Though I suspect Tristram Shandy opinioned it best about Mr Croft "his head be like a smoke-jack;–the funnel unswept, and the ideas whirling round and round about in it, all obfuscated and darkened over with fuliginous matter!" (Laurence Sterne, 1759, 'The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Gentleman')

  12. nrasmuss13 says:

    Actually, the bizarre header – disclaimer(?) – at the top J. Croft's page just adds to the weirdness.

  13. Erich Martell says:

    The whole thing, eh? I only posted a link on our little forum – a lot of people had complimentary things to say about the article, BTW. Well, such is life on the interw3bz . . . lotsa nuts and flakes out there in the bowl.

  14. Patrick says:

    One question: what should one do when one finds some real gem on a site that is moribund, and possibly soon to be deleted?

    There are millions of abandoned blogs and websites. Many have gone off the Web. Some authors are no longer with us, and it’s unlikely an heir (if any) will take the trouble to preserve the content and keep it accessible.

    Is it appropriate to save such content, and republish it (with proper attribution) if the original publication goes dark?

    Speaking solely for myself, I left Popehat for about eight months, to start my own blog where I wrote about some things similar to what we cover here, and other things not so similar. The blog was more successful than I'd hoped, drawing links from some much larger sites for which I remain appreciative. Then I let it go dark. All that remains of it is an email address.

    And I wanted it to go away entirely. I wanted every trace of it to vanish. I don't mind that it was quoted a bit here and there by other bloggers, but if I found that someone had scraped one of those posts and republished it entirely, I would assert my ownership of it as much as I would assert my ownership of anything I've written here.

  15. Scott Jacobs says:

    I would like to take a moment here and offer a complete aside to the current topic:

    Ken and Patrick, if I ever get to meet you in person I will be sorely disappointed to find that Ken is not, in fact, a small Asian boy and that Patrick is not, in fact, Rick Flair.

  16. Scott Jacobs says:

    "I’ve been up in this since 2005"

    And he said it without a single hint of irony…

    Also, I love how people upset over theft are "backstabbers".

    Bubba, I don't recall ever saying we were buddies, or partners, or even civil acquaintances. On what plane of reality do you dwell that people who have no fucking idea who you are can be backstabbers?

  17. mojo says:

    Nice, kid. Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

  18. Bob says:

    Wow. Comments on that post are bizarre.

  19. Piper says:

    Interesting Fair Use decision regarding copying an entire article:

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/copyright-troll-righthaven-achieves-spectacular-fair-use-loss.ars

    It doesn't appear to apply here however…

  20. J. Croft says:

    For Ken:

    "Theft"-PLEASE!

    I shared something I thought was damn good, and you should be damn glad your work's getting out and doing good in the first place. Not like you have a leg to stand on about this, you're not the White Stripes, you're some blogger who apparently likes to attack others in common cause with threats of "dmca" suits.

    I noted you're an attorney. You're not scaring me, you're motivating me.

    Got a open letter for you:

    http://freedomguide.blogspot.com/2011/03/open-letter-to-popehatcoms-ken.html

    Think you need to reconsider this before you take it too far. And I'm not just considering myself and my work-bad enough-but consider what YOU'VE written, and just how well today's legal system takes… obstensively… patriotic Americans. You really want to roll THAT set of dice?

    As for your fan club of commenters-it is real easy to snipe at people from your keyboard, even if their philosophies would make them fellow travelers. Such is the nature of the beast but there's going to come a time where that stuck up snideness you collectively exude is going to come back on you.

    Goes at least triple for you Scott.

    And you Ken, that's well up on a logarithmetic scale.

    Don't bother me again.

    J. Croft

  21. Ken says:

    So — that's a no, you won't take it down?

    Very well. Be a proud thief.

    We'll have some legal fun.

  22. Michael says:

    Maybe I'm biased because I write my own posts instead of stealing them, but I can't understand the fool's anger in being told not to steal. Boggles the mind.

  23. Ken says:

    He's mad because he was under the impression that I'm a kindred spirit, a PATRIOT standing up against the MAN, and therefore I should be appreciative that he scraped my entire fucking post.

    I'm sure he and I agree on a number of thinks, but frankly I find him odd and off-putting and apparently mentally unbalanced and I don't want to be associated with him. Him scraping my entire post makes it look like I am.

  24. Ansley says:

    Why the fuck does he think I'm on his side? Wow, I totally failed that one!

  25. Ansley says:

    And Ken, I'm still part of your fan club of commentors- Really, I'd drink your bathwater.

  26. David says:

    "Obstensively"?

  27. random_guy says:

    crazy trumps ideology every time.

  28. Marc says:

    That is ten pounds of crazy in a five-pound bag.

  29. G Thompson says:

    Seems there is a guy called FerFal, who wrote a very interesting guide to survival, in the similar position you are in Ken, unless FerFal is Mr Croft (highly unlikely), though it looks like Mr Croft is not even bothering to reference this other than with a very small entry down bottom which he then destroys by stating "posted by J. Croft". Well at least it doesn't say written. So his plagiarism is quite endemic it seems.

    Maybe Croft should have this as his header instead of Freedom Guide, "Libertas et natale solum" (Jonathan Swift)

  30. Ken says:

    G Thompson, I'm sure J. Croft will be freaking out about how FerFal ought to be PLEASED and HAPPY as a FELLOW PATRIOT any minute now. I'll shoot FerFal an email so he knows how happy he ought to be.

  31. Scott Jacobs says:

    As for your fan club of commenters-it is real easy to snipe at people from your keyboard, even if their philosophies would make them fellow travelers. Such is the nature of the beast but there’s going to come a time where that stuck up snideness you collectively exude is going to come back on you.

    Goes at least triple for you Scott.

    Don’t bother me again.

    Oh you can go fuck right off.

    Bubba, I have been threatened a blogger before, by someone at LEAST crazy enough to follow through with it and with far more (and far more fanatical) supporters.

    If you think your bullshit "threat" of whatever the fuck you think it is you can do to me – let alone to the fine folks who run Popehat (and Ken) – is somehow bothersome, then I would like to simply say:

    Welcome to "Completely-Fucking-Wrongville". Population: You.

    And regarding that "stuck up snideness" I appear to exude, you got that fucking right. Compared to you, you fucking thieving pissant, I am a living avatar of honor and virtue.

    As opposed to my usual status as a living avatar of rage, hate and loathing.

  32. Base of the Pillar says:

    "Lawyers… I could write a whole article-wait I did write a article about these shysters: Kill All Lawyers. Google that. Suffice it to say, we let these motherfuckers write the laws we meekly obey, even unto the poor house, the jail house, the morgue. We let them administer their laws which they enforce with armies of cops, agents, bureaucrats and we block that out as we cling desperately to the TV god we buy at 28%APR. We let them bring us to trial in their fraudulent courts, submit to their kangaroo trials, where judge, prosecutor and ‘your’ defense attorney work as a tag team to fuck you."

    http://freedomguide.wordpress.com/2010/02/

  33. Bruce says:

    That is a very special brand of crazy going on there.

    The power of CAPITAL LETTERS and your being sold to the goverment.
    The forthcoming destruction of the world food supplies by the Fukushima nuclear plant.
    The NRA – not pro gun enough.

    Wow.

  34. Linus says:

    As for your fan club of commenters-it is real easy to snipe at people from your keyboard, even if their philosophies would make them fellow travelers.

    Dammit, Croft, you exploded my irony meter. Now I've had to go buy a new one. Thanks a lot.

    Don’t bother me again.

    Godammit, Croft, that's twice! I want some butts!

  35. Patrick says:

    I should add that the next time I'm scolded by my wife, I will strive to reply, "Wow I'm just not feeling that patriot unity here."

  36. Michael says:

    Don't worry Pillar, $5 says he didn't write that one either.

  37. Scott Jacobs says:

    @Patrick – if you need a place to crash after you do that, you're free to hide out at my place…

  38. Doug says:

    I remember Patrick's blog, something about Feral Children. Great writing and like salivating dog that I am, I followed him back to Popehat.

  39. Ken says:

    Glad you did, Doug. Yes, Patrick's stuff at SSFC was top-notch.

  40. Brandon says:

    "For Ken:

    “Theft”-PLEASE!

    I shared something I thought was damn good, and you should be damn glad your work’s getting out and doing good in the first place. Not like you have a leg to stand on about this, you’re not the White Stripes, you’re some blogger who apparently likes to attack others in common cause with threats of “dmca” suits.

    I noted you’re an attorney. You’re not scaring me, you’re motivating me.

    Got a open letter for you:

    http://freedomguide.blogspot.com/2011/03/open-letter-to-popehatcoms-ken.html

    Think you need to reconsider this before you take it too far. And I’m not just considering myself and my work-bad enough-but consider what YOU’VE written, and just how well today’s legal system takes… obstensively… patriotic Americans. You really want to roll THAT set of dice?

    As for your fan club of commenters-it is real easy to snipe at people from your keyboard, even if their philosophies would make them fellow travelers. Such is the nature of the beast but there’s going to come a time where that stuck up snideness you collectively exude is going to come back on you.

    Goes at least triple for you Scott.

    And you Ken, that’s well up on a logarithmetic scale.

    Don’t bother me again.

    J. Croft Brandon

    Excerpted from the loud dumb guy up there. Surely he is consistent in his beliefs and won't mind.