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So Apparently Theft, Snivelling, And Nutjobbery Are Patriotic Now

Mar 21, 2011
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The other day I reminded people of my favorite advice: just shut up.

A scraper named "J. Croft" came along and lifted the whole damn thing. He attributed it — by blog name, author name, and link — but he still bodily copied the whole post, rather than posting an excerpt.

I offered what I viewed as a rather mildly worded request at his site:

Pardon me, but copying the entire blog post and reposting it here is not fair use. Feel free to quote, but this is a copyright violation.

A few other commenters there agreed. Did J. Croft take it well? J. Croft did not. Here's what he has to say:

Wow I'm just feeling that Patriot Unity here….

Ken, you have good advice but you're not the only person who has thought of shutting the hell up around the enemy. You just put it in different words is all. I quote full articles all the time and you are the FIRST to get their panties in a wad over it. Get over yourself, you're not Shakespeare.

Trust me Ken, I will NOT be quoting your douchebag ass again. Hang up your website and go back to watching American Idol or jacking off to child porn or taking turns fucking your mother or dog or whatever it is you do.

And as for Tomas-where's YOUR work? But I suppose having nothing's better than Joel Katz's lame ass excuse for a blog: "look at me I got four posts up so I kan rip on a Patriot trying to spread a good article! Hilk!"

God in Heaven you little bitch patriots, you keyboard minutemen are so fucking lame. I got zero-count em'-ZERO patience with you backstabbing little fucks. It's punks like y'all that blindly support Ron Paul as he embezzles you, expecting that putz on a white horse to solve all your problems. Meanwhile you kick back, write a few words or trade articles (NOT PASSING THEM ON IN FULL-GOD FORBID ANYONE DO THAT!)

Ansley knows what I'm talking about;)

I've been up in this since 2005-look to your right at my article index. You little snitch bitches got something to say to that, I'm right here.

Well, J.Croft, the beauty of your modern picture-in-picture TVs is that I can watch American Idol and child porn at the same time while giving the dog a reach-around.

Is it just me, or is J.Croft wound just a little bit tight? Normally I'd have to go to the World of Warcraft forums and advocate nerfing paladins to draw that level of socially dysfunctional sputtering outrage and odd entitlement.

Eh, revolutions have been funded by a motley array of malfeasance before. If J.Croft aims to resist the black helicopters of the New World Order by scraping and thieving, I'd guess he's not alone.

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  1. Adam  •  Mar 21, 2011 @3:50 pm

    It seems to me that common Internet courtesy would be to quote a portion of the article, link to the article, and then offer your observations on the article.

    Offering a measly link hardly drives traffic to the content provider, especially when people can view the full article without even going to the source.

    The real-world equivalent would be someone turning in a paper that you wrote to their professor, with a note in the bibliography sourcing the entire work to you.

  2. banshee  •  Mar 21, 2011 @4:10 pm

    Jeez. Sounds like he'd daring you to sue. I'd talk to an IP lawyer. You KNOW that being a "patriot"does not render one exempt from IP law.

  3. Lynn  •  Mar 21, 2011 @4:13 pm

    Another Judith Griggs. Great.

  4. LabRat  •  Mar 21, 2011 @4:13 pm

    Thought one: this needs to be framed and hung under a nice needlepoint "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" sampler.

    Thought two: Ken's got to be a frigging warrior.

  5. Paws  •  Mar 21, 2011 @4:25 pm

    The term "batshit crazy" comes to mind….

  6. SPQR  •  Mar 21, 2011 @4:29 pm

    He's a punk, Ken. Do a DMCA notice to his ISP.

  7. Linus  •  Mar 21, 2011 @8:17 pm

    "Ken, you are, like, the TENTH person whose birdbath I've crapped in, and none of THEM have complained!" Persuasive.

  8. GeekChick  •  Mar 21, 2011 @8:20 pm

    "Normally I’d have to go to the World of Warcraft forums and advocate nerfing paladins to draw that level of socially dysfunctional sputtering outrage and odd entitlement."

    Just to let you know I blew ramens through my nose when I read that :)

  9. Rich Rostrom  •  Mar 21, 2011 @9:13 pm

    One question: what should one do when one finds some real gem on a site that is moribund, and possibly soon to be deleted?

    There are millions of abandoned blogs and websites. Many have gone off the Web. Some authors are no longer with us, and it's unlikely an heir (if any) will take the trouble to preserve the content and keep it accessible.

    Is it appropriate to save such content, and republish it (with proper attribution) if the original publication goes dark?

  10. jfoobar  •  Mar 21, 2011 @9:20 pm

    OK, the "nerf paladins" slapdown was epic. +1

  11. G Thompson  •  Mar 21, 2011 @9:52 pm

    Having the bard referenced in here reminds me of an appropriate response to Mr Croft

    "Thou smell of mountain goat." (Henry V)

    Though I suspect Tristram Shandy opinioned it best about Mr Croft "his head be like a smoke-jack;–the funnel unswept, and the ideas whirling round and round about in it, all obfuscated and darkened over with fuliginous matter!" (Laurence Sterne, 1759, 'The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Gentleman')

  12. nrasmuss13  •  Mar 21, 2011 @10:15 pm

    Actually, the bizarre header – disclaimer(?) – at the top J. Croft's page just adds to the weirdness.

  13. Erich Martell  •  Mar 22, 2011 @6:55 am

    The whole thing, eh? I only posted a link on our little forum – a lot of people had complimentary things to say about the article, BTW. Well, such is life on the interw3bz . . . lotsa nuts and flakes out there in the bowl.

  14. Patrick  •  Mar 22, 2011 @9:08 am

    One question: what should one do when one finds some real gem on a site that is moribund, and possibly soon to be deleted?

    There are millions of abandoned blogs and websites. Many have gone off the Web. Some authors are no longer with us, and it’s unlikely an heir (if any) will take the trouble to preserve the content and keep it accessible.

    Is it appropriate to save such content, and republish it (with proper attribution) if the original publication goes dark?

    Speaking solely for myself, I left Popehat for about eight months, to start my own blog where I wrote about some things similar to what we cover here, and other things not so similar. The blog was more successful than I'd hoped, drawing links from some much larger sites for which I remain appreciative. Then I let it go dark. All that remains of it is an email address.

    And I wanted it to go away entirely. I wanted every trace of it to vanish. I don't mind that it was quoted a bit here and there by other bloggers, but if I found that someone had scraped one of those posts and republished it entirely, I would assert my ownership of it as much as I would assert my ownership of anything I've written here.

  15. Scott Jacobs  •  Mar 22, 2011 @10:00 am

    I would like to take a moment here and offer a complete aside to the current topic:

    Ken and Patrick, if I ever get to meet you in person I will be sorely disappointed to find that Ken is not, in fact, a small Asian boy and that Patrick is not, in fact, Rick Flair.

  16. Scott Jacobs  •  Mar 22, 2011 @10:29 am

    "I’ve been up in this since 2005"

    And he said it without a single hint of irony…

    Also, I love how people upset over theft are "backstabbers".

    Bubba, I don't recall ever saying we were buddies, or partners, or even civil acquaintances. On what plane of reality do you dwell that people who have no fucking idea who you are can be backstabbers?

  17. mojo  •  Mar 22, 2011 @11:07 am

    Nice, kid. Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

  18. Bob  •  Mar 22, 2011 @12:35 pm

    Wow. Comments on that post are bizarre.

  19. Piper  •  Mar 22, 2011 @3:05 pm

    Interesting Fair Use decision regarding copying an entire article:

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/copyright-troll-righthaven-achieves-spectacular-fair-use-loss.ars

    It doesn't appear to apply here however…

  20. J. Croft  •  Mar 22, 2011 @3:26 pm

    For Ken:

    "Theft"-PLEASE!

    I shared something I thought was damn good, and you should be damn glad your work's getting out and doing good in the first place. Not like you have a leg to stand on about this, you're not the White Stripes, you're some blogger who apparently likes to attack others in common cause with threats of "dmca" suits.

    I noted you're an attorney. You're not scaring me, you're motivating me.

    Got a open letter for you:

    http://freedomguide.blogspot.com/2011/03/open-letter-to-popehatcoms-ken.html

    Think you need to reconsider this before you take it too far. And I'm not just considering myself and my work-bad enough-but consider what YOU'VE written, and just how well today's legal system takes… obstensively… patriotic Americans. You really want to roll THAT set of dice?

    As for your fan club of commenters-it is real easy to snipe at people from your keyboard, even if their philosophies would make them fellow travelers. Such is the nature of the beast but there's going to come a time where that stuck up snideness you collectively exude is going to come back on you.

    Goes at least triple for you Scott.

    And you Ken, that's well up on a logarithmetic scale.

    Don't bother me again.

    J. Croft

  21. Ken  •  Mar 22, 2011 @3:33 pm

    So — that's a no, you won't take it down?

    Very well. Be a proud thief.

    We'll have some legal fun.

  22. Patrick  •  Mar 22, 2011 @4:28 pm

    http://www.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=lr_dmca&product=blogger

  23. Michael  •  Mar 22, 2011 @6:16 pm

    Maybe I'm biased because I write my own posts instead of stealing them, but I can't understand the fool's anger in being told not to steal. Boggles the mind.

  24. Ken  •  Mar 22, 2011 @7:26 pm

    He's mad because he was under the impression that I'm a kindred spirit, a PATRIOT standing up against the MAN, and therefore I should be appreciative that he scraped my entire fucking post.

    I'm sure he and I agree on a number of thinks, but frankly I find him odd and off-putting and apparently mentally unbalanced and I don't want to be associated with him. Him scraping my entire post makes it look like I am.

  25. Ansley  •  Mar 22, 2011 @7:50 pm

    Why the fuck does he think I'm on his side? Wow, I totally failed that one!

  26. Ansley  •  Mar 22, 2011 @7:56 pm

    And Ken, I'm still part of your fan club of commentors- Really, I'd drink your bathwater.

  27. David  •  Mar 22, 2011 @8:02 pm

    "Obstensively"?

  28. random_guy  •  Mar 22, 2011 @8:02 pm

    crazy trumps ideology every time.

  29. Marc  •  Mar 22, 2011 @8:17 pm

    That is ten pounds of crazy in a five-pound bag.

  30. G Thompson  •  Mar 22, 2011 @8:39 pm

    Seems there is a guy called FerFal, who wrote a very interesting guide to survival, in the similar position you are in Ken, unless FerFal is Mr Croft (highly unlikely), though it looks like Mr Croft is not even bothering to reference this other than with a very small entry down bottom which he then destroys by stating "posted by J. Croft". Well at least it doesn't say written. So his plagiarism is quite endemic it seems.

    Maybe Croft should have this as his header instead of Freedom Guide, "Libertas et natale solum" (Jonathan Swift)

  31. Ken  •  Mar 22, 2011 @9:26 pm

    G Thompson, I'm sure J. Croft will be freaking out about how FerFal ought to be PLEASED and HAPPY as a FELLOW PATRIOT any minute now. I'll shoot FerFal an email so he knows how happy he ought to be.

  32. Scott Jacobs  •  Mar 22, 2011 @10:28 pm

    As for your fan club of commenters-it is real easy to snipe at people from your keyboard, even if their philosophies would make them fellow travelers. Such is the nature of the beast but there’s going to come a time where that stuck up snideness you collectively exude is going to come back on you.

    Goes at least triple for you Scott.

    …

    Don’t bother me again.

    Oh you can go fuck right off.

    Bubba, I have been threatened a blogger before, by someone at LEAST crazy enough to follow through with it and with far more (and far more fanatical) supporters.

    If you think your bullshit "threat" of whatever the fuck you think it is you can do to me – let alone to the fine folks who run Popehat (and Ken) – is somehow bothersome, then I would like to simply say:

    Welcome to "Completely-Fucking-Wrongville". Population: You.

    And regarding that "stuck up snideness" I appear to exude, you got that fucking right. Compared to you, you fucking thieving pissant, I am a living avatar of honor and virtue.

    As opposed to my usual status as a living avatar of rage, hate and loathing.

  33. Base of the Pillar  •  Mar 22, 2011 @10:28 pm

    "Lawyers… I could write a whole article-wait I did write a article about these shysters: Kill All Lawyers. Google that. Suffice it to say, we let these motherfuckers write the laws we meekly obey, even unto the poor house, the jail house, the morgue. We let them administer their laws which they enforce with armies of cops, agents, bureaucrats and we block that out as we cling desperately to the TV god we buy at 28%APR. We let them bring us to trial in their fraudulent courts, submit to their kangaroo trials, where judge, prosecutor and ‘your’ defense attorney work as a tag team to fuck you."

    http://freedomguide.wordpress.com/2010/02/

  34. Bruce  •  Mar 22, 2011 @11:23 pm

    That is a very special brand of crazy going on there.

    The power of CAPITAL LETTERS and your being sold to the goverment.
    The forthcoming destruction of the world food supplies by the Fukushima nuclear plant.
    The NRA – not pro gun enough.

    Wow.

  35. Linus  •  Mar 23, 2011 @7:19 am

    As for your fan club of commenters-it is real easy to snipe at people from your keyboard, even if their philosophies would make them fellow travelers.

    Dammit, Croft, you exploded my irony meter. Now I've had to go buy a new one. Thanks a lot.

    Don’t bother me again.

    Godammit, Croft, that's twice! I want some butts!

  36. Patrick  •  Mar 23, 2011 @12:54 pm

    I should add that the next time I'm scolded by my wife, I will strive to reply, "Wow I'm just not feeling that patriot unity here."

  37. Michael  •  Mar 23, 2011 @1:12 pm

    Don't worry Pillar, $5 says he didn't write that one either.

  38. Scott Jacobs  •  Mar 23, 2011 @1:36 pm

    @Patrick – if you need a place to crash after you do that, you're free to hide out at my place…

  39. Doug  •  Mar 24, 2011 @8:38 pm

    I remember Patrick's blog, something about Feral Children. Great writing and like salivating dog that I am, I followed him back to Popehat.

  40. Ken  •  Mar 24, 2011 @8:43 pm

    Glad you did, Doug. Yes, Patrick's stuff at SSFC was top-notch.

  41. Brandon  •  Apr 2, 2011 @4:01 pm

    "For Ken:

    “Theft”-PLEASE!

    I shared something I thought was damn good, and you should be damn glad your work’s getting out and doing good in the first place. Not like you have a leg to stand on about this, you’re not the White Stripes, you’re some blogger who apparently likes to attack others in common cause with threats of “dmca” suits.

    I noted you’re an attorney. You’re not scaring me, you’re motivating me.

    Got a open letter for you:

    http://freedomguide.blogspot.com/2011/03/open-letter-to-popehatcoms-ken.html

    Think you need to reconsider this before you take it too far. And I’m not just considering myself and my work-bad enough-but consider what YOU’VE written, and just how well today’s legal system takes… obstensively… patriotic Americans. You really want to roll THAT set of dice?

    As for your fan club of commenters-it is real easy to snipe at people from your keyboard, even if their philosophies would make them fellow travelers. Such is the nature of the beast but there’s going to come a time where that stuck up snideness you collectively exude is going to come back on you.

    Goes at least triple for you Scott.

    And you Ken, that’s well up on a logarithmetic scale.

    Don’t bother me again.

    J. Croft Brandon

    Excerpted from the loud dumb guy up there. Surely he is consistent in his beliefs and won't mind.