Comments on: "The Nearest One Could Come To Doing So Would Be To Swallow The Whole Passage Up In The Single Word: Crimethink." http://www.popehat.com/2010/01/25/the-nearest-one-could-come-to-doing-so-would-be-to-swallow-the-whole-passage-up-in-the-single-word-crimethink/ A Group Complaint about Law, Liberty, and Leisure Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:39:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: proofreader http://www.popehat.com/2010/01/25/the-nearest-one-could-come-to-doing-so-would-be-to-swallow-the-whole-passage-up-in-the-single-word-crimethink/comment-page-1/#comment-62947 proofreader Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:45:02 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=7332#comment-62947 According to an update added to this story, the word cited by the volunteer was NOT in the edition she proffered. If so, how did she find it? Does she have another agenda here? Amazingly, the superintendent is still referring the dictionary which is missing the offending word to a school committee for <strike>censorship</strike> study. According to an update added to this story, the word cited by the volunteer was NOT in the edition she proffered. If so, how did she find it? Does she have another agenda here? Amazingly, the superintendent is still referring the dictionary which is missing the offending word to a school committee for censorship study.

]]> By: jb http://www.popehat.com/2010/01/25/the-nearest-one-could-come-to-doing-so-would-be-to-swallow-the-whole-passage-up-in-the-single-word-crimethink/comment-page-1/#comment-62857 jb Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:16:39 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=7332#comment-62857 Hey, some people like that. Hey, some people like that.

]]> By: Stephen Taylor http://www.popehat.com/2010/01/25/the-nearest-one-could-come-to-doing-so-would-be-to-swallow-the-whole-passage-up-in-the-single-word-crimethink/comment-page-1/#comment-62853 Stephen Taylor Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:10:44 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=7332#comment-62853 I went to the school district website; it is, of course, "Down for Scheduled Maintenance". I recall sitting with the dictionary in 3rd grade looking for all the objectionable words I had heard or knew; my searches led to a lifetime obsession with all words and a love of reading in general. Although I never did find the definition of "pissant".......... I went to the school district website; it is, of course, "Down for Scheduled Maintenance". I recall sitting with the dictionary in 3rd grade looking for all the objectionable words I had heard or knew; my searches led to a lifetime obsession with all words and a love of reading in general. Although I never did find the definition of "pissant"……….

]]> By: Ken http://www.popehat.com/2010/01/25/the-nearest-one-could-come-to-doing-so-would-be-to-swallow-the-whole-passage-up-in-the-single-word-crimethink/comment-page-1/#comment-62848 Ken Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:54:58 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=7332#comment-62848 I'm wondering if the pronunciation guide warns you about not using your teeth. I'm wondering if the pronunciation guide warns you about not using your teeth.

]]> By: Andi http://www.popehat.com/2010/01/25/the-nearest-one-could-come-to-doing-so-would-be-to-swallow-the-whole-passage-up-in-the-single-word-crimethink/comment-page-1/#comment-62839 Andi Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:05:15 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=7332#comment-62839 Well, if those kids weren't talking about oral sex before, they sure are now. The dictionary in question appears to be Merriam Webster's 10th edition. Well, if those kids weren't talking about oral sex before, they sure are now.

The dictionary in question appears to be Merriam Webster's 10th edition.

]]> By: Grandy http://www.popehat.com/2010/01/25/the-nearest-one-could-come-to-doing-so-would-be-to-swallow-the-whole-passage-up-in-the-single-word-crimethink/comment-page-1/#comment-62836 Grandy Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:39:57 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=7332#comment-62836 Wait, that wasn't Noah Webster's personal dictionary? Patrick, I'm surprised you would deliberately mislead the little people of the net like that. And frankly, disappointed. You might instead have noted that this is a widely used dictionary (and widely used for a reason; popularity doesn't apply here the way it would to a best selling novel). Oh, wait, that's what you were doing. Never mind. Wait, that wasn't Noah Webster's personal dictionary? Patrick, I'm surprised you would deliberately mislead the little people of the net like that. And frankly, disappointed.

You might instead have noted that this is a widely used dictionary (and widely used for a reason; popularity doesn't apply here the way it would to a best selling novel).

Oh, wait, that's what you were doing. Never mind.

]]> By: Vedrfolnir http://www.popehat.com/2010/01/25/the-nearest-one-could-come-to-doing-so-would-be-to-swallow-the-whole-passage-up-in-the-single-word-crimethink/comment-page-1/#comment-62832 Vedrfolnir Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:30:54 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=7332#comment-62832 Free-Range Kids covered this today, too. How stupid can you get? Me and my friends were cussing up a storm in fourth grade, it was cool. Free-Range Kids covered this today, too. How stupid can you get? Me and my friends were cussing up a storm in fourth grade, it was cool.

]]> By: Rich Rostrom http://www.popehat.com/2010/01/25/the-nearest-one-could-come-to-doing-so-would-be-to-swallow-the-whole-passage-up-in-the-single-word-crimethink/comment-page-1/#comment-62791 Rich Rostrom Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:31:43 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=7332#comment-62791 It isn't Noah Webster's dictionary, it's a modern dictionary that a publisher put Webster's name on. Citing the use of a famous old name as evidence of quality or tradition is fatuous. It isn't Noah Webster's dictionary, it's a modern dictionary that a publisher put Webster's name on. Citing the use of a famous old name as evidence of quality or tradition is fatuous.

]]> By: California school district bans dictionary from classroom http://www.popehat.com/2010/01/25/the-nearest-one-could-come-to-doing-so-would-be-to-swallow-the-whole-passage-up-in-the-single-word-crimethink/comment-page-1/#comment-62757 California school district bans dictionary from classroom Tue, 26 Jan 2010 05:15:45 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=7332#comment-62757 [...] It’s a Merriam-Webster Collegiate and contains naughty bits that kids might stumble across or even look up on purpose. [Southwest Riverside News Network via Popehat] [...] [...] It's a Merriam-Webster Collegiate and contains naughty bits that kids might stumble across or even look up on purpose. [Southwest Riverside News Network via Popehat] [...]

]]> By: proofreader http://www.popehat.com/2010/01/25/the-nearest-one-could-come-to-doing-so-would-be-to-swallow-the-whole-passage-up-in-the-single-word-crimethink/comment-page-1/#comment-62749 proofreader Tue, 26 Jan 2010 04:03:54 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=7332#comment-62749 Sorry. Should read "the dictionary" in previous comment. Sorry. Should read "the dictionary" in previous comment.

]]> By: proofreader http://www.popehat.com/2010/01/25/the-nearest-one-could-come-to-doing-so-would-be-to-swallow-the-whole-passage-up-in-the-single-word-crimethink/comment-page-1/#comment-62747 proofreader Tue, 26 Jan 2010 04:03:00 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=7332#comment-62747 The superintendent might need to dictionary to learn the difference between "it's" and "its" on her web page. The superintendent might need to dictionary to learn the difference between "it's" and "its" on her web page.

]]> By: Grandy http://www.popehat.com/2010/01/25/the-nearest-one-could-come-to-doing-so-would-be-to-swallow-the-whole-passage-up-in-the-single-word-crimethink/comment-page-1/#comment-62736 Grandy Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:05:53 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=7332#comment-62736 I dropped my first F-bomb in 2nd grade. And was a better man for it. I dropped my first F-bomb in 2nd grade. And was a better man for it.

]]> By: mojo http://www.popehat.com/2010/01/25/the-nearest-one-could-come-to-doing-so-would-be-to-swallow-the-whole-passage-up-in-the-single-word-crimethink/comment-page-1/#comment-62706 mojo Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:00:18 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=7332#comment-62706 What dirty word? Fellatio? Cunnilingus? Get a grip. Next up: Coitus What dirty word? Fellatio? Cunnilingus?

Get a grip. Next up: Coitus

]]> By: Ken http://www.popehat.com/2010/01/25/the-nearest-one-could-come-to-doing-so-would-be-to-swallow-the-whole-passage-up-in-the-single-word-crimethink/comment-page-1/#comment-62704 Ken Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:47:10 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=7332#comment-62704 You beat me to it. Apparently the defenders of this action are arguing that this is a college-level dictionary, containing <a href="http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/menifee/article_4c9ec30f-70e7-5d72-bdab-8dda8b2daa9b.html" rel="nofollow">frank definitions of dirty words,</a> and thus inappropriate for a fourth-grade classroom. Because fourth graders won't encounter dirty words otherwise, and the last thing we want is for them to be able to look them up and find out what they actually mean. Plus, God intended for oral sex to mean "talking about how sex is wrong" except in a sanctioned relationship such as the one between a family-values pastor and his meth-distributing rent boy. I'd far rather have my kids have easy access to adult dictionaries and reference works -- and thus find out the truth -- than have their education dictated by the petty insecurities of the chromosomal dump-site that is the mind of a censor. Also, this is a good effort by California. They came to play. But they'll never touch Texas, where <a href="http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/012510dntexbooks.3e17c50.html" rel="nofollow">Board of Education member Pat Hardy, R-Weatherford, wanted to ban "Brown Bear Brown Bear What Do You See"</a> because it was written by someone with the same name as someone else who once wrote something approving about communism. These people breed. And their children vote, and probably don't wash their hands before handling your super-sized fries. You beat me to it.

Apparently the defenders of this action are arguing that this is a college-level dictionary, containing frank definitions of dirty words, and thus inappropriate for a fourth-grade classroom. Because fourth graders won't encounter dirty words otherwise, and the last thing we want is for them to be able to look them up and find out what they actually mean. Plus, God intended for oral sex to mean "talking about how sex is wrong" except in a sanctioned relationship such as the one between a family-values pastor and his meth-distributing rent boy.

I'd far rather have my kids have easy access to adult dictionaries and reference works — and thus find out the truth — than have their education dictated by the petty insecurities of the chromosomal dump-site that is the mind of a censor.

Also, this is a good effort by California. They came to play. But they'll never touch Texas, where Board of Education member Pat Hardy, R-Weatherford, wanted to ban "Brown Bear Brown Bear What Do You See" because it was written by someone with the same name as someone else who once wrote something approving about communism.

These people breed. And their children vote, and probably don't wash their hands before handling your super-sized fries.

]]> By: PLW http://www.popehat.com/2010/01/25/the-nearest-one-could-come-to-doing-so-would-be-to-swallow-the-whole-passage-up-in-the-single-word-crimethink/comment-page-1/#comment-62703 PLW Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:40:24 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=7332#comment-62703 I'm sure she just "happened upon" the entry for oral sex. Someone has a prurient interest, and it ain't Noah Webster. I'm sure she just "happened upon" the entry for oral sex. Someone has a prurient interest, and it ain't Noah Webster.

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