Comments on: Pernicious Misconceptions: The Walking Dead’s Best Friend, And Humanity’s Worst Enemy http://www.popehat.com/2009/11/09/pernicious-misconceptions-the-walking-deads-best-friend-and-humanitys-worst-enemy/ A Group Complaint about Law, Liberty, and Leisure Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:19:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Fox http://www.popehat.com/2009/11/09/pernicious-misconceptions-the-walking-deads-best-friend-and-humanitys-worst-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-80079 Fox Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:37:51 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=6994#comment-80079 watch, zombieland, btw, the first rules in that movie are magnificent, the 'doubletap' 'beware of bathrooms' and 'CARDIO', best assume I'm not coming back to post again, if I do, its to share critical insights with new knowledge I've obtained, those seriously considering devising a plan to survive... Word to the WISE: Learn, learn all you can, when this network goes down you won't have time to reference material on the fly or look up 'how combustion engines work' ya diggggg? watch, zombieland, btw, the first rules in that movie are magnificent, the ‘doubletap’ ‘beware of bathrooms’ and ‘CARDIO’, best assume I’m not coming back to post again, if I do, its to share critical insights with new knowledge I’ve obtained, those seriously considering devising a plan to survive…
Word to the WISE: Learn, learn all you can, when this network goes down you won’t have time to reference material on the fly or look up ‘how combustion engines work’ ya diggggg?

]]> By: Fox http://www.popehat.com/2009/11/09/pernicious-misconceptions-the-walking-deads-best-friend-and-humanitys-worst-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-80078 Fox Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:33:23 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=6994#comment-80078 Ok for one, we're looking at not only massive numbers, but consider the multiples, one human can push a light car, ten can push a fully loaded 18 wheeler, even properly barricaded with steel frames and concrete, you'll get the pressure eventually needed, starting with a sound like submarines make when the depth is exceeded and pressure exceeds structural integrity, at the same time, these zombies are no longer functioning at 3% muscle capabillitys, imagine, a PCP overdose gone wrong, they're able to use what most of us ignorantly dub 'mothers strength'. also, the fresh zombies, the ones not over a few decades old, will be able to run without snapping their shiznit, in otherwords, SUPERFAST Juggernaught ZOMBIES, yeah, I dropped it here, on ya'll first, Mark, learning is the only genius tactic, if you spend more time learning than acting on a half a book of knowledge, you'll understand why we're all laughing at your 'superior' tactical playbook, also, I found that the urban centers will be the BEST place to survive on foot with limited ammo, in those tight spaces the zombie's numbers will count for nothing (like 300, but realistic) especially when you count in parkour to outmaneuver the 'faster than you' model of zombie I just proposed. Ok for one, we’re looking at not only massive numbers, but consider the multiples, one human can push a light car, ten can push a fully loaded 18 wheeler, even properly barricaded with steel frames and concrete, you’ll get the pressure eventually needed, starting with a sound like submarines make when the depth is exceeded and pressure exceeds structural integrity, at the same time, these zombies are no longer functioning at 3% muscle capabillitys, imagine, a PCP overdose gone wrong, they’re able to use what most of us ignorantly dub ‘mothers strength’. also, the fresh zombies, the ones not over a few decades old, will be able to run without snapping their shiznit, in otherwords, SUPERFAST Juggernaught ZOMBIES, yeah, I dropped it here, on ya’ll first, Mark, learning is the only genius tactic, if you spend more time learning than acting on a half a book of knowledge, you’ll understand why we’re all laughing at your ‘superior’ tactical playbook, also, I found that the urban centers will be the BEST place to survive on foot with limited ammo, in those tight spaces the zombie’s numbers will count for nothing (like 300, but realistic) especially when you count in parkour to outmaneuver the ‘faster than you’ model of zombie I just proposed.

]]> By: DMS http://www.popehat.com/2009/11/09/pernicious-misconceptions-the-walking-deads-best-friend-and-humanitys-worst-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-52590 DMS Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:27:17 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=6994#comment-52590 Patrick, Bah - 2 snakes eating each other's tail. Apologies for skimming a bit and not going back to your original post. In an effort to add something new (I checked), the Dead Set writer later responded to the same Guardian article but find his arguments weak: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/nov/10/barack-obama-zombies-running Frankly I've missed the recent zombie meme and only just become aware of (and immediately purchased) a copy of "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies", because what else is a horror-loving anglophile supposed to do, even if you're behind the curve? Finally a legal question - is decapitating a zombie depriving it of its human right? Patrick,
Bah – 2 snakes eating each other’s tail.
Apologies for skimming a bit and not going back to your original post. In an effort to add something new (I checked), the Dead Set writer later responded to the same Guardian article but find his arguments weak:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/nov/10/barack-obama-zombies-running
Frankly I’ve missed the recent zombie meme and only just become aware of (and immediately purchased) a copy of “Pride and Prejudice and Zombies”, because what else is a horror-loving anglophile supposed to do, even if you’re behind the curve?
Finally a legal question – is decapitating a zombie depriving it of its human right?

]]> By: Patrick http://www.popehat.com/2009/11/09/pernicious-misconceptions-the-walking-deads-best-friend-and-humanitys-worst-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-52548 Patrick Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:17:12 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=6994#comment-52548 Oddly enough DMS, if you read the earlier linked blogpost within, you'll see that it was a reaction to the Guardian story you mention. Oddly enough DMS, if you read the earlier linked blogpost within, you’ll see that it was a reaction to the Guardian story you mention.

]]> By: DMS http://www.popehat.com/2009/11/09/pernicious-misconceptions-the-walking-deads-best-friend-and-humanitys-worst-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-52547 DMS Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:14:20 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=6994#comment-52547 Folks, interesting piece on running zombies in the (UK) Guardian newspaper a while back. [Don't like the paper's politics but the writing can be good.] http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/nov/04/television-simon-pegg-dead-set It was in response to a (UK) award winning TV horror/social satire "mini series" called Dead Set which had running zombies - apparently for budgetary reasons! A zombie movie director complains... I've only seen the first episode so far and those running zombies are pretty scary; I'd much rather have the shuffling, wobbly ones chasing me. Folks,

interesting piece on running zombies in the (UK) Guardian newspaper a while back. [Don't like the paper's politics but the writing can be good.]
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/nov/04/television-simon-pegg-dead-set

It was in response to a (UK) award winning TV horror/social satire “mini series” called Dead Set which had running zombies – apparently for budgetary reasons! A zombie movie director complains…

I’ve only seen the first episode so far and those running zombies are pretty scary; I’d much rather have the shuffling, wobbly ones chasing me.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.popehat.com/2009/11/09/pernicious-misconceptions-the-walking-deads-best-friend-and-humanitys-worst-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-52385 Patrick Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:48:37 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=6994#comment-52385 Mark, eventually the dead will leave Chicago and Seattle. There will be no one left who isn't a walking corpse. They'll find their way to Montana. Better to be vigilant now than to trust in one's ability to gun down thousands of the dead. You have to sleep, but they don't. Always be vigilant. Always. Mark, eventually the dead will leave Chicago and Seattle. There will be no one left who isn’t a walking corpse. They’ll find their way to Montana.

Better to be vigilant now than to trust in one’s ability to gun down thousands of the dead. You have to sleep, but they don’t.

Always be vigilant. Always.

]]> By: Chris http://www.popehat.com/2009/11/09/pernicious-misconceptions-the-walking-deads-best-friend-and-humanitys-worst-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-52379 Chris Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:31:47 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=6994#comment-52379 Zombies don't need to swim from china. They just walk across the bottom of the ocean. Will it take a while? Of course. They're dead, they have time. What? You think the sharks are going to get them? Zombie sharks are scarier than normal sharks. You might think you're fine. And you might be fine, for a while. But they're not going to stop coming. Eventually, you will make a mistake. Zombies don’t need to swim from china. They just walk across the bottom of the ocean. Will it take a while? Of course. They’re dead, they have time.

What? You think the sharks are going to get them? Zombie sharks are scarier than normal sharks.

You might think you’re fine. And you might be fine, for a while. But they’re not going to stop coming. Eventually, you will make a mistake.

]]> By: Mark http://www.popehat.com/2009/11/09/pernicious-misconceptions-the-walking-deads-best-friend-and-humanitys-worst-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-52340 Mark Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:34:49 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=6994#comment-52340 No zombies swimming from China! Not only that, but within the population of North America, it's a logical assumption that zombie populations are going to be regional. Allowing even for zombie hordes moving, ceaselessly, in random directions (which is a large concession, because why would a zombie march weeks over mountain ranges when it could remain in its population center, feasting on the bountiful supply of human remains?), my compound would encounter only a very small segment of the damned - which we could easily repel, given my preparations. No, we need not fear extinction. Nodes of resistance will be established, attrition will bear out, and from the ashes will rise a new civilization based on my cult of personality. Take comfort in my tactical genius. No zombies swimming from China! Not only that, but within the population of North America, it’s a logical assumption that zombie populations are going to be regional. Allowing even for zombie hordes moving, ceaselessly, in random directions (which is a large concession, because why would a zombie march weeks over mountain ranges when it could remain in its population center, feasting on the bountiful supply of human remains?), my compound would encounter only a very small segment of the damned – which we could easily repel, given my preparations.

No, we need not fear extinction. Nodes of resistance will be established, attrition will bear out, and from the ashes will rise a new civilization based on my cult of personality. Take comfort in my tactical genius.

]]> By: eddie http://www.popehat.com/2009/11/09/pernicious-misconceptions-the-walking-deads-best-friend-and-humanitys-worst-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-52295 eddie Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:43:09 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=6994#comment-52295 <i>You have fewer than six billion bullets.</i> At least now we have a benchmark for what constitutes a reasonable supply of ammunition. You have fewer than six billion bullets.

At least now we have a benchmark for what constitutes a reasonable supply of ammunition.

]]> By: TomH http://www.popehat.com/2009/11/09/pernicious-misconceptions-the-walking-deads-best-friend-and-humanitys-worst-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-52268 TomH Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:14:03 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=6994#comment-52268 We should embrace what the zombies can bring to our culture - they were people, too. We should embrace what the zombies can bring to our culture – they were people, too.

]]> By: Chris http://www.popehat.com/2009/11/09/pernicious-misconceptions-the-walking-deads-best-friend-and-humanitys-worst-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-52259 Chris Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:42:14 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=6994#comment-52259 "Slow zombies are only dangerous in urban areas" Fool. There are only two constants about the walking dead - they never stop coming, and it's never going to be OK again. So what if they can't make it into your compound in winter? Winter ends. You have fewer than six billion bullets. You are screwed. “Slow zombies are only dangerous in urban areas”

Fool.

There are only two constants about the walking dead – they never stop coming, and it’s never going to be OK again. So what if they can’t make it into your compound in winter? Winter ends. You have fewer than six billion bullets. You are screwed.

]]> By: mojo http://www.popehat.com/2009/11/09/pernicious-misconceptions-the-walking-deads-best-friend-and-humanitys-worst-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-52247 mojo Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:54:52 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=6994#comment-52247 Cricket bat. Trust me. Cricket bat. Trust me.

]]> By: South Florida Lawyers http://www.popehat.com/2009/11/09/pernicious-misconceptions-the-walking-deads-best-friend-and-humanitys-worst-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-52234 South Florida Lawyers Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:24:32 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=6994#comment-52234 Did you catch the recent documentary, Starz Inside: Zombiemania, which details the history of zombies and has great interview segments with Romero? I wrote about my hate for fast zombies here: http://southfloridalawyers.blogspot.com/2009/10/fast-zombies-suck.html Did you catch the recent documentary, Starz Inside: Zombiemania, which details the history of zombies and has great interview segments with Romero?

I wrote about my hate for fast zombies here:

http://southfloridalawyers.blogspot.com/2009/10/fast-zombies-suck.html

]]> By: bill http://www.popehat.com/2009/11/09/pernicious-misconceptions-the-walking-deads-best-friend-and-humanitys-worst-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-52230 bill Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:55:28 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=6994#comment-52230 George Romero was a guest on the October 31 episode of the NPR game show "Wait Wait Don't Tell Me." A few of his comments: *"I didn't call them zombies. I just called them flesh-eaters or ghouls." *"My guys don't talk, they don't say 'braaaains.' And they don't run. Some of the new films have them running....If the real living dead tried to run, they'd snap their ankles." *"I tried to keep a certain logic. My guys aren't even strong enough to dig their way out of their graves." *"My first job was for Mr. Rodgers." He filmed Mr. Rodgers going in for a tonsillectomy. George Romero was a guest on the October 31 episode of the NPR game show “Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me.” A few of his comments:

*”I didn’t call them zombies. I just called them flesh-eaters or ghouls.”

*”My guys don’t talk, they don’t say ‘braaaains.’ And they don’t run. Some of the new films have them running….If the real living dead tried to run, they’d snap their ankles.”

*”I tried to keep a certain logic. My guys aren’t even strong enough to dig their way out of their graves.”

*”My first job was for Mr. Rodgers.” He filmed Mr. Rodgers going in for a tonsillectomy.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.popehat.com/2009/11/09/pernicious-misconceptions-the-walking-deads-best-friend-and-humanitys-worst-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-52228 Patrick Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:27:23 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=6994#comment-52228 That's the <em>point</em> Jack. People walked out of the original. The original is genuinely disturbing, the best and truest vision of worldwide apocaplypse ever rendered on film. The original depicts <em>the Rapture</em> in a world where no one is worthy of going to Heaven, yet the dead still rise. The remake is wholesome summer family entertainment, suitable for kids of all ages. A zombie movie as interpreted by Disney, or Michael Bay, complete with catchphrases. I'm surprised Burger King didn't offer special Dawn of the Dead collector's cups, only a quarter extra with every Double Whopper Extra Value Combo purchased. That’s the point Jack. People walked out of the original.

The original is genuinely disturbing, the best and truest vision of worldwide apocaplypse ever rendered on film. The original depicts the Rapture in a world where no one is worthy of going to Heaven, yet the dead still rise.

The remake is wholesome summer family entertainment, suitable for kids of all ages. A zombie movie as interpreted by Disney, or Michael Bay, complete with catchphrases. I’m surprised Burger King didn’t offer special Dawn of the Dead collector’s cups, only a quarter extra with every Double Whopper Extra Value Combo purchased.

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