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	<title>Comments on: Who In The World Is Benjamin Gifford?</title>
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		<title>By: Derrick</title>
		<link>http://www.popehat.com/2009/10/20/who-in-the-world-is-benjamin-gifford/comment-page-1/#comment-76671</link>
		<dc:creator>Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FATALITY</description>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.popehat.com/2009/10/20/who-in-the-world-is-benjamin-gifford/comment-page-1/#comment-76328</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The answer to &quot;what in the world is Ben Gifford&quot; is: Lying Weasel.

His court testimony is incredibly damning - you can see an extract &lt;a href=&quot;http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/04/evony-speaks-to-ars.ars&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here in an Ars Technica followup&lt;/a&gt;.  He is thoroughly pwned by one of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.law.unimelb.edu.au/index.cfm?objectid=F9D2D075-B0D0-AB80-E2BC989969E28989&amp;username=Andrew%20Bell%20SC&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Australia&#039;s transnational litigation experts.&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;cite&gt;
Q. How do you say you are not an out and out liar when you have approved statements on the Internet that you hold a Bachelor of Arts, earned a Bachelor of Arts and a Master of Business Administration?
A. That was put there purely as a PR actually.

Q. Mr Gifford, is that a serious answer?
A. Yes. 
...
Q. It is a lie?
A. Yes.
...
Q. Do you currently have a problem with this, Mr Gifford?
A. Yes.

Q. When did you develop that problem, in the last ten seconds?
A. Yes. &lt;/cite&gt;

Things went kind of downhill for Evony&#039;s case from there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The answer to "what in the world is Ben Gifford" is: Lying Weasel.</p>
<p>His court testimony is incredibly damning &#8211; you can see an extract <a href="http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/04/evony-speaks-to-ars.ars" rel="nofollow">here in an Ars Technica followup</a>.  He is thoroughly pwned by one of <a href="http://www.law.unimelb.edu.au/index.cfm?objectid=F9D2D075-B0D0-AB80-E2BC989969E28989&amp;username=Andrew%20Bell%20SC" rel="nofollow">Australia's transnational litigation experts.</a></p>
<p><cite><br />
Q. How do you say you are not an out and out liar when you have approved statements on the Internet that you hold a Bachelor of Arts, earned a Bachelor of Arts and a Master of Business Administration?<br />
A. That was put there purely as a PR actually.</p>
<p>Q. Mr Gifford, is that a serious answer?<br />
A. Yes.<br />
&#8230;<br />
Q. It is a lie?<br />
A. Yes.<br />
&#8230;<br />
Q. Do you currently have a problem with this, Mr Gifford?<br />
A. Yes.</p>
<p>Q. When did you develop that problem, in the last ten seconds?<br />
A. Yes. </cite></p>
<p>Things went kind of downhill for Evony's case from there.</p>
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		<title>By: Lu Lu</title>
		<link>http://www.popehat.com/2009/10/20/who-in-the-world-is-benjamin-gifford/comment-page-1/#comment-74227</link>
		<dc:creator>Lu Lu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a wonderful reference to his educational qualifications in this article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/mar/31/evony-libel-case-bruce-everiss

Evony&#039;s case began to break down during the second day when Gifford was cross-examined. He admitted that his claim to have BA and MBA degrees were not true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a wonderful reference to his educational qualifications in this article: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/mar/31/evony-libel-case-bruce-everiss" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/mar/31/evony-libel-case-bruce-everiss</a></p>
<p>Evony's case began to break down during the second day when Gifford was cross-examined. He admitted that his claim to have BA and MBA degrees were not true.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.popehat.com/2009/10/20/who-in-the-world-is-benjamin-gifford/comment-page-1/#comment-70607</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 20:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evony is a fraud in all aspects.

They &quot;hire&quot; people or websites to host their ads, don&#039;t pay the owners of said websites when time comes, they change IP addresses and owners (who don&#039;t even exist), plus they sue someone without revealing who they really are.  This whole thing is stupid.

I was dumb enough to host their ad on my website.  Evony owes me $200 per month for the last 9 months which I will never see.  I say they come to the USA and settle it in our supreme court.  I know people who work for the companies that Evony stole gaming data from.

When I find out who really owns Evony, I&#039;ll sue his ass for not paying me, lying, stealing, trying to hack my website (my protection software blocked 35 attempts already this month from the &quot;current owners&quot; IP address for Evony) and for all the same charges they are pressing on Bruce Everiss.

As far as I am concerned anybody against me can take sides with Evony and get part of the punishment they deserve!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evony is a fraud in all aspects.</p>
<p>They "hire" people or websites to host their ads, don't pay the owners of said websites when time comes, they change IP addresses and owners (who don't even exist), plus they sue someone without revealing who they really are.  This whole thing is stupid.</p>
<p>I was dumb enough to host their ad on my website.  Evony owes me $200 per month for the last 9 months which I will never see.  I say they come to the USA and settle it in our supreme court.  I know people who work for the companies that Evony stole gaming data from.</p>
<p>When I find out who really owns Evony, I'll sue his ass for not paying me, lying, stealing, trying to hack my website (my protection software blocked 35 attempts already this month from the "current owners" IP address for Evony) and for all the same charges they are pressing on Bruce Everiss.</p>
<p>As far as I am concerned anybody against me can take sides with Evony and get part of the punishment they deserve!</p>
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		<title>By: The people behind Evony &#8212; Bruce On Games</title>
		<link>http://www.popehat.com/2009/10/20/who-in-the-world-is-benjamin-gifford/comment-page-1/#comment-66902</link>
		<dc:creator>The people behind Evony &#8212; Bruce On Games</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 06:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dawnseeker. Tamatha Foland,  FoxyBunny also has the job title Vice Development Director Assistant, Thalin Athasian is the Vice Development director and in the real world is Benjamin Gifford and he li... Valkirah is Mike and his title is Evony Liaison Officer. Barish is Grand Chief Systems Admin. And [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.popehat.com/2009/10/20/who-in-the-world-is-benjamin-gifford/comment-page-1/#comment-50449</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a student studying computer games design at uni and decided to investigate Evony.com.
Just to see what some of these games are like etc. etc.
The game is actually kind of cool (found myself addicted and even spent a little money on it).
But I started to notice HUGE bandwidth use by the site as I played.
I am not the only one either, there are comments on the evony forums about this.
This is odd because all of the client info, the animations etc. are all downloaded in one big download at the start.
There is no streaming media so I began to wonder what was going on.

To cut a long story short I decided to break the law and reverse engineer Evony&#039;s client.
Not to cheat. Not to rip them off or even to use even a scrap of the code.
But just to poke about a bit and find out what was going on, maybe even offer them some ways to improve things.

Aside from the fact that the whole thing is very poorly constructed (it is really very beginner coder level stuff. Reminds me of a lot of
what the first year students produce for assignments) it contained some very interesting information.

Included with the client are 2 peices of tracking software that monitor your web use and which applications you have open while the client is running.
These do not install independently on the machine though due to the limitations of flash and do not actually damage anything.
But they harvest massive volumes of information. My firewall was blocking a lot of outgoing transmissions and it turns out that these
were the data trying to be sent out. So they know nothing about me. lol.
However there is a LOT of data coming IN over the ports the client uses. In otherwords it is downloading something into my cache for use later.
I have bandiwdth restriction which slows these types of tricks down and I completely clear my cache every couple of hours if I am heavily using the net.

I also noticed that all the varanbles etc. are named Civony still and that there are multiple references to UMGE.
Even a couple of folders are simply called UMGE, one of these folders contains one of the spyware programs.
So I can only guess at where the data would end up if I didnt have a good firewall.

There are also commented out sections in the code which contain references to UMGE and Lam himself, though low on details.

Thank you for reading this.

  Lee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a student studying computer games design at uni and decided to investigate Evony.com.<br />
Just to see what some of these games are like etc. etc.<br />
The game is actually kind of cool (found myself addicted and even spent a little money on it).<br />
But I started to notice HUGE bandwidth use by the site as I played.<br />
I am not the only one either, there are comments on the evony forums about this.<br />
This is odd because all of the client info, the animations etc. are all downloaded in one big download at the start.<br />
There is no streaming media so I began to wonder what was going on.</p>
<p>To cut a long story short I decided to break the law and reverse engineer Evony's client.<br />
Not to cheat. Not to rip them off or even to use even a scrap of the code.<br />
But just to poke about a bit and find out what was going on, maybe even offer them some ways to improve things.</p>
<p>Aside from the fact that the whole thing is very poorly constructed (it is really very beginner coder level stuff. Reminds me of a lot of<br />
what the first year students produce for assignments) it contained some very interesting information.</p>
<p>Included with the client are 2 peices of tracking software that monitor your web use and which applications you have open while the client is running.<br />
These do not install independently on the machine though due to the limitations of flash and do not actually damage anything.<br />
But they harvest massive volumes of information. My firewall was blocking a lot of outgoing transmissions and it turns out that these<br />
were the data trying to be sent out. So they know nothing about me. lol.<br />
However there is a LOT of data coming IN over the ports the client uses. In otherwords it is downloading something into my cache for use later.<br />
I have bandiwdth restriction which slows these types of tricks down and I completely clear my cache every couple of hours if I am heavily using the net.</p>
<p>I also noticed that all the varanbles etc. are named Civony still and that there are multiple references to UMGE.<br />
Even a couple of folders are simply called UMGE, one of these folders contains one of the spyware programs.<br />
So I can only guess at where the data would end up if I didnt have a good firewall.</p>
<p>There are also commented out sections in the code which contain references to UMGE and Lam himself, though low on details.</p>
<p>Thank you for reading this.</p>
<p>  Lee</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Logistics means he was a friggin pogue and about as dangerous as a packet of limp wet spaghetti....actually...it looks like he ate more than a few boxes of said limp pasta....

Great investigative reporting, first time visitor but certainly not my last time here ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Logistics means he was a friggin pogue and about as dangerous as a packet of limp wet spaghetti&#8230;.actually&#8230;it looks like he ate more than a few boxes of said limp pasta&#8230;.</p>
<p>Great investigative reporting, first time visitor but certainly not my last time here <img src='http://www.popehat.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Evony suit against game blogger critic, cont&#8217;d</title>
		<link>http://www.popehat.com/2009/10/20/who-in-the-world-is-benjamin-gifford/comment-page-1/#comment-49248</link>
		<dc:creator>Evony suit against game blogger critic, cont&#8217;d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at Popehat does some digging, in fact quite a lot of it, about a curious suit filed in Australia. Earlier [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Nic</title>
		<link>http://www.popehat.com/2009/10/20/who-in-the-world-is-benjamin-gifford/comment-page-1/#comment-49239</link>
		<dc:creator>Nic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Gifford, from his mugshot, looks like he indeed has background in both the military and logistics industries.
I wonder if the Australian Army&#039;s Personnel division (I assume that was his military background - to the best of my knowledge, Australians, like Americans, are prohibited by law from serving as mercenaries abroad) would be prepared to comment on his record, rank, and postings?

Also, my memory is failing in my dotage, so remind me: Logistics: It refers to moving heavy objects like boxes, right? (amongst other things of course)

I am tempted to contact him to find out if he has any background in the criminal justice system, or the penal correction system area.
He might be able to provide valuable services to me after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Gifford, from his mugshot, looks like he indeed has background in both the military and logistics industries.<br />
I wonder if the Australian Army's Personnel division (I assume that was his military background &#8211; to the best of my knowledge, Australians, like Americans, are prohibited by law from serving as mercenaries abroad) would be prepared to comment on his record, rank, and postings?</p>
<p>Also, my memory is failing in my dotage, so remind me: Logistics: It refers to moving heavy objects like boxes, right? (amongst other things of course)</p>
<p>I am tempted to contact him to find out if he has any background in the criminal justice system, or the penal correction system area.<br />
He might be able to provide valuable services to me after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.popehat.com/2009/10/20/who-in-the-world-is-benjamin-gifford/comment-page-1/#comment-49191</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another mildly ironic twist.  The Australian Alliance Party he links to is one of the groups protesting the possible establishment of our own version of the Great Firewall of China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another mildly ironic twist.  The Australian Alliance Party he links to is one of the groups protesting the possible establishment of our own version of the Great Firewall of China.</p>
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		<title>By: mojo</title>
		<link>http://www.popehat.com/2009/10/20/who-in-the-world-is-benjamin-gifford/comment-page-1/#comment-49173</link>
		<dc:creator>mojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hey, I&#039;m not the pilot, genius! I mostly just hurt people and break things.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Hey, I'm not the pilot, genius! I mostly just hurt people and break things."</p>
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		<title>By: Grandy</title>
		<link>http://www.popehat.com/2009/10/20/who-in-the-world-is-benjamin-gifford/comment-page-1/#comment-49158</link>
		<dc:creator>Grandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;While a military background in problem-solving may be as valued in the gaming industry as proficiency in, say, PERL or Visual Basic, most game industry job postings tend toward the second category. ” I’m trying to figure out how many levels deep this was meant to go as a joke. Either way, well played.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ve been wondering too.  :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>While a military background in problem-solving may be as valued in the gaming industry as proficiency in, say, PERL or Visual Basic, most game industry job postings tend toward the second category. ” I’m trying to figure out how many levels deep this was meant to go as a joke. Either way, well played.</p></blockquote>
<p>I've been wondering too.  <img src='http://www.popehat.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Help Bruce Defeat Evony&#160;&#124;&#160;Mogamu</title>
		<link>http://www.popehat.com/2009/10/20/who-in-the-world-is-benjamin-gifford/comment-page-1/#comment-49151</link>
		<dc:creator>Help Bruce Defeat Evony&#160;&#124;&#160;Mogamu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] find out how deep this rabbit hole goes check out Patrick&#8217;s amazing journalistic work over at Popehat  about the entire situation.  Lets all get behind this effort to and show these &#8220;gold [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] find out how deep this rabbit hole goes check out Patrick's amazing journalistic work over at Popehat  about the entire situation.  Lets all get behind this effort to and show these "gold [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://www.popehat.com/2009/10/20/who-in-the-world-is-benjamin-gifford/comment-page-1/#comment-49146</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I visited the twitter link.  Apparently, it&#039;s a man-in-the-middle blogspam that takes the first paragraph from your site, then links to your post. 

It seems safe (wasn&#039;t tested with Javascript or plugins), but still...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I visited the twitter link.  Apparently, it's a man-in-the-middle blogspam that takes the first paragraph from your site, then links to your post. </p>
<p>It seems safe (wasn't tested with Javascript or plugins), but still&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;While a military background in problem-solving may be as valued in the gaming industry as proficiency in, say, PERL or Visual Basic, most game industry job postings tend toward the second category. &quot;  I&#039;m trying to figure out how many levels deep this was meant to go as a joke.  Either way, well played.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"While a military background in problem-solving may be as valued in the gaming industry as proficiency in, say, PERL or Visual Basic, most game industry job postings tend toward the second category. "  I'm trying to figure out how many levels deep this was meant to go as a joke.  Either way, well played.</p>
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