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	<title>Comments on: A Czar On Both Your Houses</title>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://www.popehat.com/2009/09/16/a-czar-on-both-your-houses/comment-page-1/#comment-44115</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs .... raises .... an even more valuable point about Democratic hypocrisy:&quot;

&quot;But I don’t recall a single damned Democrat complaining that an abstinence Czar was unconstitutional Mr. Gibbs, only that the anointed abstinence Czar was a hypocrite, so on that front your accusations of Republican hypocrisy rebound. &quot;

I am confused by these statements, perhaps because I am not familiar with the definition of &quot;hyprocrisy&quot; that Patrick is using.  I usually see &quot;hypocrisy&quot; used in the context of indicating that someone&#039;s actions are in opposition to their professed position, and vice versa.  For example, the Republican&#039;s current opposition to Obama&#039;s appointment of czars seems to conflict with their previous acceptance of Bush&#039;s czars.

But Patrick&#039;s argument seems to be that since the Democrats never complained about the unconstitutionality of Bush&#039;s czars, it is hypocritical for them now to accept Obama&#039;s czars.  I understand that Patrick thinks all czars are unconstitutional, and that he&#039;s peeved that the Democrats haven&#039;t ever made that claim.  But I don&#039;t see how being consistent on this topic makes them hypocritical.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs &#8230;. raises &#8230;. an even more valuable point about Democratic hypocrisy:"</p>
<p>"But I don’t recall a single damned Democrat complaining that an abstinence Czar was unconstitutional Mr. Gibbs, only that the anointed abstinence Czar was a hypocrite, so on that front your accusations of Republican hypocrisy rebound. "</p>
<p>I am confused by these statements, perhaps because I am not familiar with the definition of "hyprocrisy" that Patrick is using.  I usually see "hypocrisy" used in the context of indicating that someone's actions are in opposition to their professed position, and vice versa.  For example, the Republican's current opposition to Obama's appointment of czars seems to conflict with their previous acceptance of Bush's czars.</p>
<p>But Patrick's argument seems to be that since the Democrats never complained about the unconstitutionality of Bush's czars, it is hypocritical for them now to accept Obama's czars.  I understand that Patrick thinks all czars are unconstitutional, and that he's peeved that the Democrats haven't ever made that claim.  But I don't see how being consistent on this topic makes them hypocritical.</p>
<p>Someone want to help me out?</p>
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		<title>By: Abdul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abdul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don think Tobias was an abstinence czar.  He merely advocated abstinence in his role as Director of Foreign Assistance, linking the provision of aid with the Bush program of &quot;ABC: Abstinence, Be faithful, and the correct and consistent use of Condoms&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don think Tobias was an abstinence czar.  He merely advocated abstinence in his role as Director of Foreign Assistance, linking the provision of aid with the Bush program of "ABC: Abstinence, Be faithful, and the correct and consistent use of Condoms"</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a GREAT search string S.C.!

I admire your skill with search engines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a GREAT search string S.C.!</p>
<p>I admire your skill with search engines.</p>
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		<title>By: Stinking Crock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stinking Crock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would a google search reveal ? Hmmm, that&#039;s an interesting timeline...
http://www.google.com/search?q=czar%20republican%20OR%20democrat%20bush%20OR%20obama%20or%20clinton&amp;hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;hs=Oz7&amp;sa=G&amp;num=100&amp;output=search&amp;tbs=tl:1&amp;tbo=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would a google search reveal ? Hmmm, that's an interesting timeline&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=czar%20republican%20OR%20democrat%20bush%20OR%20obama%20or%20clinton&#038;hl=en&#038;safe=off&#038;client=firefox-a&#038;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&#038;hs=Oz7&#038;sa=G&#038;num=100&#038;output=search&#038;tbs=tl:1&#038;tbo=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?q=czar%20republican%20OR%20democrat%20bush%20OR%20obama%20or%20clinton&#038;hl=en&#038;safe=off&#038;client=firefox-a&#038;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&#038;hs=Oz7&#038;sa=G&#038;num=100&#038;output=search&#038;tbs=tl:1&#038;tbo=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Czar of Muscovy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Czar of Muscovy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 01:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;Done and done.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a>Done and done.</a></p>
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		<title>By: mwright</title>
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		<dc:creator>mwright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Popehat-Gormogon crossover episode!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Popehat-Gormogon crossover episode!</p>
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		<title>By: Czar of Muscovy</title>
		<link>http://www.popehat.com/2009/09/16/a-czar-on-both-your-houses/comment-page-1/#comment-43831</link>
		<dc:creator>Czar of Muscovy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Я цьсарь!  The Czar of Muscovy accepts, but good luck getting this into the little box next to our name: Божію Поспѣшествующею Милостію Мы, Дима Грозный Императоръ и Самодержецъ Всероссiйскiй, цѣсарь Московскiй.

Best regards!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Я цьсарь!  The Czar of Muscovy accepts, but good luck getting this into the little box next to our name: Божію Поспѣшествующею Милостію Мы, Дима Грозный Императоръ и Самодержецъ Всероссiйскiй, цѣсарь Московскiй.</p>
<p>Best regards!</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The apologia tends to be that many of these czars are simply &lt;i&gt;advising&lt;/i&gt; the President, and talking to people, and don&#039;t actually have any powers.  This may be true, at least for some of the positions.  If the position has no power conferred by law or by administrative fiat, I don&#039;t have too much trouble with it -- a &quot;czar&quot; is simply an insipid name for &quot;advisor&quot; in such cases.

Of course, even in those cases, the existence of the czar is problematic under your analysis, Patrick, because it both (1) reflects federal snooping and poking and grandstanding in areas in which the feds have no business, and (2) tends to obscure the nature and extent of actual legal involvement in those fields.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The apologia tends to be that many of these czars are simply <i>advising</i> the President, and talking to people, and don't actually have any powers.  This may be true, at least for some of the positions.  If the position has no power conferred by law or by administrative fiat, I don't have too much trouble with it &#8212; a "czar" is simply an insipid name for "advisor" in such cases.</p>
<p>Of course, even in those cases, the existence of the czar is problematic under your analysis, Patrick, because it both (1) reflects federal snooping and poking and grandstanding in areas in which the feds have no business, and (2) tends to obscure the nature and extent of actual legal involvement in those fields.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tsar is by far the better pronunciation, though as pronounced by English speakers who don&#039;t speak a slavic language, there&#039;s a lack of trill to the ultimate R that dissatisfies.

And I do think the issue is Czars and Tsars, without respect to party.  Apart from perhaps Charles (Ezra hates both parties because they&#039;re not Left enough), we&#039;re not friends of Democrats or Republicans.  Clinton had his Czars, as did Carter, as did Johnson, as did Truman.

We&#039;re against all Czars, unless someone really needs the knout, in which case we favor a Tsar.  Any of them except for Nicholas II.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tsar is by far the better pronunciation, though as pronounced by English speakers who don't speak a slavic language, there's a lack of trill to the ultimate R that dissatisfies.</p>
<p>And I do think the issue is Czars and Tsars, without respect to party.  Apart from perhaps Charles (Ezra hates both parties because they're not Left enough), we're not friends of Democrats or Republicans.  Clinton had his Czars, as did Carter, as did Johnson, as did Truman.</p>
<p>We're against all Czars, unless someone really needs the knout, in which case we favor a Tsar.  Any of them except for Nicholas II.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Geezer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Geezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the issue here is Czars or Tsars. (And why does spellcheck like Czars but reject Tsars?) The issue is:  Why didn&#039;t we hear the strident yelling about Reagon&#039;s Czars, or Bush I&#039;s Czars or Bush II&#039;s Czars?  If the yelping was consistent then I could give it more consideration.  It is simply a semantic tool in any event.  Appoint a guy to focus on a problem and it goes straight to the bottom of the bureaucracy.  Make him a Czar and he rises to the top (until the Bolsheviks arrive).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't think the issue here is Czars or Tsars. (And why does spellcheck like Czars but reject Tsars?) The issue is:  Why didn't we hear the strident yelling about Reagon's Czars, or Bush I's Czars or Bush II's Czars?  If the yelping was consistent then I could give it more consideration.  It is simply a semantic tool in any event.  Appoint a guy to focus on a problem and it goes straight to the bottom of the bureaucracy.  Make him a Czar and he rises to the top (until the Bolsheviks arrive).</p>
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