Comments on: Want to Complain About a Cop? Better Bring Your I.D. — And Maybe A Toothbrush

By: learnyourrights

learnyourrights — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 03:58:53 +0000

I had a violent run in with the police when i was almost 18 @ 117lbs then. I'd done nothing illegal but state my rights and deny them permission to search me and my belongings. Lying they said they saw me hide something. They purposefully cuffed me wrong so they could whoop! my butt when they fell off!! I was detained in a cruiser while they moved all other cruisers to the front of their barrage (relocating the Cameras off of My relocation) when they finally moved me the large cuff finally slipped off and my friends (who's father was a cop, and a girl I'd just met-lol) watched as they bounced my head like a basket ball, off the asphalt- and blood sprayed all the way onto the detainees in the vehicle! Then proceeded to stand on my arms and knees and hair. The one on my arm pulled on the attached cuff till my arm swelled in bruises. When I lifted my head in response to "I'm not on your hair! LOL hahahah!" I was maced in each eye- even tho 4 officers had already pinned me. I remember little but the 'crazy chair' now, being choked, deceived, laughed at, ignored. LOL, it's messed up but I tried to file a complaint in a way, really I was trying to get pictures of my injuries. The lieutenant told me "You didn't run S--- here! lol!" The jail Dr. denied anything was wrong with me but made record of the busted lip but ignored all swelling and bruising. My layer had to sneak a camera phone in to finally get pictures and by then considerable healing had occurred. I couldn't fund my defense sadly I was incarcerated for "swinging on an officers head after pretending to be cuffed!" and "resisting" among other things. Four long months. Later the same criminal officers SHOT and KILLED a YOUNG MAN! And have since been relieved of duty. If only anyone would have listened to me then. It's just to stupid to be okay! Ignorance is destruction!! And I'm not gonna take this s--- anymore!

By: Legally UnBound

Legally UnBound — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:44:47 +0000

I was watching 'Police Women" last night. That show really gets me going, not becuase of the police women, because of how dumb the accused are and how much the police lie to them. They try to be their friend, they tell them lies, they threaten them, then, the police officers complain that they are being lied to. The police really think that everyone should tell them the truth. I think they believe their own crap. They told this one guy, who had not drugs on him because he had smoked it, "just tell us the truth and everything will be OK, we just want the truth". So he told them he had just bought crack and smoked it. They arrested him. Then they had the balls to say, "you see, you tell us the truth and everything just goes easy, this could have been a lot worse." What? would they have beat his ass, too, he got arrested for telling the truth and they had dick without a confession. Then in a shot after the arrest the police woman had the nuts to say, "we protect and serve, no matter what it is, its our job to serve the public to the best of our ability." I know police our extremely important, but common on, they create a lot of the problems, too. Try asking a cop a question the next time you get pulled over. You'll be asked to get out of the car and they'll search you. The probable cause is you questioning of authority.

By: Dennis

Dennis — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:51:54 +0000

If you think of the cops as a gang, you won't be too far off. They are relatively well behaved as a gang – not as well as the Boy Scouts but better than the Crips. They are our gang, and they are necessary for our protection. But they are a gang, nonetheless.

Gang loyalty comes first, then loyalty to the rest of society. They take care of their own. Those that don't are in for a world of crap.

A certain amount of "gang mentality" is necessary for survival. There needs to be unit cohesion. Someone needs to watch Officer Crupkie's back. But it still taints all officers. Every officer who knows of corruption and abuse of power, and who does not fight it, is corrupt himself. Eventually, the entire force becomes corrupt.

Just remember they're a gang.

By: Patrick

Patrick — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:16:15 +0000

The article, as formatted on our webpage, contains a page break to conserve space. A user may click on a link "continue to read more" to access the remaining portion of the article. That is what is known as a "jump."

You fool.

By: Stalker

Stalker — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:50:34 +0000

So where exactly was this imaginary "jump" that came before the article? Don't be fucking retarded.

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September 18 roundup — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:16:59 +0000

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By: Legally UnBound

Legally UnBound — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:31:53 +0000

I think Lee makes a very good point. That may be what pegr was trying to say, although less eloqeuntly. Although, I don't know how much I trust firemen either. The important point is made in the article, cops deserve respect as a group, but individually they are allowed to be judged by their actions. It is when the individual cops take the group power and abuse it, which seems to be happening more and more (or it has always happened, we can just record it now). I know a ton of cops, like most attorneys. Some are nice guys, some are always assholes. However, the 'nice guys' are so deeply entrenched in their 'cop culture' that they have a really hard time looking at the world the way the rest of us do. Even the 'nice guys' are too right/wrong, black/white and as a result they expect complete dominance in any conversation. Of course, this is just the tendencies and not all inclusive. The problem is that even the 'nice guys' are polluted and will likely fall prey to act in kind with their examples. Like Lee says, if you stand up or "report things" as a cop, you'll likely end up "in a world of shit at the job." That does not promote just enforcement of the law.

By: lee

lee — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:22:47 +0000

All cops watch their co-workers break the law. They have sworn to uphold the law. They ALL cover for their friends. ''But my friends are all such niiiice guuuys''. yeah right. The ''nice '' ones are scared little mice. My dad was a fair cop who WOULD report things. He ended up in a world of shit at the job.

By: Ken

Ken — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:09:57 +0000

I don't think that's fair, pegr. Certainly some cops who do not themselves commit fraud or break the law are blameworthy for covering for cops who do. But do all cops share blame simply for being cops? If that is the standard, than all citizens probably share blame for various misdeeds of society. I'm not sure it's a meaningful standard. I'm concerned with the cops who specifically lie and condone lying.

By: pegr

pegr — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:55:44 +0000

All cops are crooked. There is no such thing as a good cop.

Don't agree? Then why do "good cops" work with, cover for, accept and support, all the bad cops? That makes them bad! They are all bad!

If you're really in trouble and need help, call a fireman. They actually want to help you.

By: Jag

Jag — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:14:52 +0000

I actually have a few friends who are SoFla cops. They are such good guys, it's too bad they work with such a group of pricks.

Anyone interested in cops behaving badly against photographers should check out Carlos Miller's Blog, Photography Is Not A Crime. He's got some great stories, including his own.

http://carlosmiller.com/