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	<title>Comments on: Latest Threat To Family Values:  Open Microphones (UPDATED)</title>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Wilson and Sanford and now Duvall!!!  The three republican amigos!!!  These republicans are a classy bunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Wilson and Sanford and now Duvall!!!  The three republican amigos!!!  These republicans are a classy bunch.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I think about it, the more the asshole&#039;s &quot;privacy&quot; references annoy me.  Dude, you were &lt;i&gt;bragging about banging lobbyists to another politician.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I think about it, the more the asshole's "privacy" references annoy me.  Dude, you were <i>bragging about banging lobbyists to another politician.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No worries.  Nile actually resigned for a period from his position in the Legaslative Council of New South Wales in order to have a tilt at the Federal Senate.  That didn&#039;t go so well so he&#039;s back to being a curmudgeon in the legaslative council.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries.  Nile actually resigned for a period from his position in the Legaslative Council of New South Wales in order to have a tilt at the Federal Senate.  That didn't go so well so he's back to being a curmudgeon in the legaslative council.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have qualified with a &#039;current&#039; as Harradine is gone and I thought Nile had been booted.  I see now I was wrong on the latter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have qualified with a 'current' as Harradine is gone and I thought Nile had been booted.  I see now I was wrong on the latter.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://www.popehat.com/2009/09/09/latest-threat-to-family-values-open-microphones/comment-page-1/#comment-42916</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, hubris.  Is it wrong to enjoy a certain degree of schadenfreude when idiots like this bring down their own career?

Bruce: I still think it would be a big deal simply because of the amount of moralising that, at least from the outside looking in, seems to occur in the U.S. in order to grab the religious vote.

On the topic of the New South Wales Health Minister (John Della-Bosca) I&#039;ve followed a bit of that story myself, being a Sydney-sider, and in the end I have to say he got what was coming to him.  He probably didn&#039;t deserve the actual way it came out but he brought about his own demise

He is a married man, married to a Federal Representative no less, and a well known public figure in New South Wales.  A lot of people know what he looks like and a lot of people know what his wife looks like.  If you:

* are this person and you are locking faces with someone who is obviously not your wife on the couch of a trendy Pub, a public place, where other people are around and can see, or

* you are indulging other people in the details of your affair

You lose the right to privacy.  Hell, I&#039;m not a public figure but if I ever reached the moral depths of cheating on a woman I&#039;d be damn sure to keep it out of the public eye, and I&#039;m not anyone important.

As for the morality mast I could think of three off the top of my head, Stephen Fielding, Brian Harradine and Fred Nile.  A bit of Google searching for people affiliated with them would undoubtadley turn up more.  There are numerous people in the government who do openly talk about their religion like Tony Abbot and even the Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, but your broad assertion is true.  Most of them, fortunately, steer well clear of moralising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, hubris.  Is it wrong to enjoy a certain degree of schadenfreude when idiots like this bring down their own career?</p>
<p>Bruce: I still think it would be a big deal simply because of the amount of moralising that, at least from the outside looking in, seems to occur in the U.S. in order to grab the religious vote.</p>
<p>On the topic of the New South Wales Health Minister (John Della-Bosca) I've followed a bit of that story myself, being a Sydney-sider, and in the end I have to say he got what was coming to him.  He probably didn't deserve the actual way it came out but he brought about his own demise</p>
<p>He is a married man, married to a Federal Representative no less, and a well known public figure in New South Wales.  A lot of people know what he looks like and a lot of people know what his wife looks like.  If you:</p>
<p>* are this person and you are locking faces with someone who is obviously not your wife on the couch of a trendy Pub, a public place, where other people are around and can see, or</p>
<p>* you are indulging other people in the details of your affair</p>
<p>You lose the right to privacy.  Hell, I'm not a public figure but if I ever reached the moral depths of cheating on a woman I'd be damn sure to keep it out of the public eye, and I'm not anyone important.</p>
<p>As for the morality mast I could think of three off the top of my head, Stephen Fielding, Brian Harradine and Fred Nile.  A bit of Google searching for people affiliated with them would undoubtadley turn up more.  There are numerous people in the government who do openly talk about their religion like Tony Abbot and even the Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, but your broad assertion is true.  Most of them, fortunately, steer well clear of moralising.</p>
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		<title>By: morganovich</title>
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		<dc:creator>morganovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wanna see something hilarious?  here&#039;s the mistress shown on the registered lobbyist page for CA.  note the date of her recently completed ethics course.  yessirreebob, that ethics class might not be quite cutting the mustard...

http://cal-access.ss.ca.gov/Lobbying/Lobbyists/Detail.aspx?id=1268268&amp;session=2009</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wanna see something hilarious?  here's the mistress shown on the registered lobbyist page for CA.  note the date of her recently completed ethics course.  yessirreebob, that ethics class might not be quite cutting the mustard&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://cal-access.ss.ca.gov/Lobbying/Lobbyists/Detail.aspx?id=1268268&#038;session=2009" rel="nofollow">http://cal-access.ss.ca.gov/Lobbying/Lobbyists/Detail.aspx?id=1268268&#038;session=2009</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure politicians are better or worse than the community as a whole when it comes to extra marital shenanigans.  If it weren&#039;t for the hypocrisy or the conflict of interest would this be as big a deal?

The New South Wales health minister resigned this week when his affair with a young staffer was revealed.  However, he has never taken any stand on a moral issue and so perhaps his calls to leave his private life private might have some merit.

I can only think of a single elected official in this entire nation (both state and federal) that has nailed his colors to the christian morality mast - and only snuck in on a preference deal after gathering just 1.5% of the popular vote.  As such - we don&#039;t generate a lot of these kinds of stories here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm not sure politicians are better or worse than the community as a whole when it comes to extra marital shenanigans.  If it weren't for the hypocrisy or the conflict of interest would this be as big a deal?</p>
<p>The New South Wales health minister resigned this week when his affair with a young staffer was revealed.  However, he has never taken any stand on a moral issue and so perhaps his calls to leave his private life private might have some merit.</p>
<p>I can only think of a single elected official in this entire nation (both state and federal) that has nailed his colors to the christian morality mast &#8211; and only snuck in on a preference deal after gathering just 1.5% of the popular vote.  As such &#8211; we don't generate a lot of these kinds of stories here.</p>
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		<title>By: dispatches from TJICistan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;So, I&#8217;m getting into spanking her. Yeah, I like it&#8230;&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>dispatches from TJICistan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;So, I&#8217;m getting into spanking her. Yeah, I like it&#8230;&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He was the Mayor of Lorma Linda before being a state legislator, but the bar for that is pretty low as well.

She&#039;s not even that good looking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was the Mayor of Lorma Linda before being a state legislator, but the bar for that is pretty low as well.</p>
<p>She's not even that good looking.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 20:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Updated:  Dipshit resigns.</description>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 19:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t his passive-aggressive response great?   &lt;i&gt;I deeply regret the comments I made in what I believed to be a private conversation.&lt;/i&gt;

You&#039;re right, dude.  I&#039;m a jerk for spying on you.  Please accept my apologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn't his passive-aggressive response great?   <i>I deeply regret the comments I made in what I believed to be a private conversation.</i></p>
<p>You're right, dude.  I'm a jerk for spying on you.  Please accept my apologies.</p>
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		<title>By: Jdog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 19:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add a secular &quot;amen.&quot;  I&#039;ve got friends who do the whole poly thing.  With them, it comes off as charming, albeit a bit tedious at times.  (My own theory is that the energy that some folks put into raising kids, they put into multiple romantic relationships -- seems to dominate their lives in the way that the kids dominate mine.)  

But not at all icky or hypocritical, as there&#039;s no &quot;cheating&quot; involved, and nothing to get &quot;caught&quot; at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add a secular "amen."  I've got friends who do the whole poly thing.  With them, it comes off as charming, albeit a bit tedious at times.  (My own theory is that the energy that some folks put into raising kids, they put into multiple romantic relationships &#8212; seems to dominate their lives in the way that the kids dominate mine.)  </p>
<p>But not at all icky or hypocritical, as there's no "cheating" involved, and nothing to get "caught" at.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So shameful when a man breaks the sacred trust between a man and his primary mistress by taking on a secondary mistress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So shameful when a man breaks the sacred trust between a man and his primary mistress by taking on a secondary mistress.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed it is.  A typo you&#039;d think I could avoid when linking a title in which I spelled it right . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed it is.  A typo you'd think I could avoid when linking a title in which I spelled it right . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Raft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Raft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stunning.  You&#039;ve outdone yourself yet again.  

One small nudnik observation: it&#039;s spelled &quot;hypocrisy,&quot; not &quot;hipocrisy.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stunning.  You've outdone yourself yet again.  </p>
<p>One small nudnik observation: it's spelled "hypocrisy," not "hipocrisy."</p>
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