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	<title>Comments on: Environmental Activists Advocate For Soil Quality, Leaner Government</title>
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	<description>A Group Complaint about Law, Liberty, and Leisure</description>
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		<title>By: Suicide barriers on scenic California bridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suicide barriers on scenic California bridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Environmentalists have filed a lawsuit to block construction. [Santa Barbara Daily Sound via Popehat] [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Environmentalists have filed a lawsuit to block construction. [Santa Barbara Daily Sound via Popehat] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mojo</title>
		<link>http://www.popehat.com/2009/07/23/environmental-activists-advocate-for-soil-quality-leaner-government/comment-page-1/#comment-36596</link>
		<dc:creator>mojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, at least they picked a high enough bridge to get the job done. Nobody likes a failed suicide lying around moaning and bleeding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, at least they picked a high enough bridge to get the job done. Nobody likes a failed suicide lying around moaning and bleeding.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 06:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s well-intended, but...no matter what you do, there are other ways.  You can&#039;t put a suicide rail on every bridge, building, cliff.  Prevention comes before someone decides to die.  

Impolitic as it is to say, there&#039;s not much point in this project.  Saying so doesn&#039;t make you pro-suicide, any more than opposing hate-crimes legislation makes you a racist.  Intentions matter, but results have to guide decision-making.

Spend the money on mental health outreach.  Or widen the highway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s well-intended, but&#8230;no matter what you do, there are other ways.  You can&#8217;t put a suicide rail on every bridge, building, cliff.  Prevention comes before someone decides to die.  </p>
<p>Impolitic as it is to say, there&#8217;s not much point in this project.  Saying so doesn&#8217;t make you pro-suicide, any more than opposing hate-crimes legislation makes you a racist.  Intentions matter, but results have to guide decision-making.</p>
<p>Spend the money on mental health outreach.  Or widen the highway.</p>
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		<title>By: Little Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Little Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that suicide is rarely a dignified choice and almost always a tragedy, &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; that putting suicide rails on bridges is somewhere in the low 27 thousands on the list of things we should be worrying about.

Pretty bridge, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that suicide is rarely a dignified choice and almost always a tragedy, <i>and</i> that putting suicide rails on bridges is somewhere in the low 27 thousands on the list of things we should be worrying about.</p>
<p>Pretty bridge, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Rostrom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Rostrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/398-bridge-to-nowhere-a-map-of-golden-gate-jumpers/

discusses a map/chart showing the distribution of suicides from the Golden Gate Bridge. (Most jump on the Bay side; there is a spike at light pole 69.)</description>
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<p>discusses a map/chart showing the distribution of suicides from the Golden Gate Bridge. (Most jump on the Bay side; there is a spike at light pole 69.)</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are reading the subtext correctly Jess.  I don&#039;t believe that suicide, generally, is a dignified choice which should be left to the individual.  I think it&#039;s a tragedy.

Your second, rhetorical question doesn&#039;t require an answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are reading the subtext correctly Jess.  I don&#8217;t believe that suicide, generally, is a dignified choice which should be left to the individual.  I think it&#8217;s a tragedy.</p>
<p>Your second, rhetorical question doesn&#8217;t require an answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I reading the subtext here correctly: that suicide is a horrible thing, and everyone who has ever done it should have been stopped from doing so, and if only we put up a few more fences next to precipices then no one would ever again make this tragic mistake?

Please, this is America.  People shouldn&#039;t have to procure guns to end their lives with dignity.  I submit that this bridge is more effective than a gun in inexperienced hands, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I reading the subtext here correctly: that suicide is a horrible thing, and everyone who has ever done it should have been stopped from doing so, and if only we put up a few more fences next to precipices then no one would ever again make this tragic mistake?</p>
<p>Please, this is America.  People shouldn&#8217;t have to procure guns to end their lives with dignity.  I submit that this bridge is more effective than a gun in inexperienced hands, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why isn&#039;t anyone discussing the impact on suicide tourism?

&#039;If we make it inconvenient for people to come visit Santa Barbara County (and kill themselves), they&#039;ll just go somewhere else!&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why isn&#8217;t anyone discussing the impact on suicide tourism?</p>
<p>&#8216;If we make it inconvenient for people to come visit Santa Barbara County (and kill themselves), they&#8217;ll just go somewhere else!&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;d be a beautiful place to die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;d be a beautiful place to die.</p>
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