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	<title>Comments on: This Looks Like A Job For Sonia Sotomayor</title>
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		<title>By: A. Colon</title>
		<link>http://www.popehat.com/2009/07/16/this-looks-like-a-job-for-sonia-sotomayor/comment-page-1/#comment-106081</link>
		<dc:creator>A. Colon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 20:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Domelights not only was a racist web site they actually carriered out their threats and beat Latino during the Puerto Rican day parade and came back on domelights to laugh about it. They also targeted a Latino owned police supply shop retailer, and practically placed him out of business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Domelights not only was a racist web site they actually carriered out their threats and beat Latino during the Puerto Rican day parade and came back on domelights to laugh about it. They also targeted a Latino owned police supply shop retailer, and practically placed him out of business.</p>
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		<title>By: July 27 roundup</title>
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		<dc:creator>July 27 roundup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and comments [CNN, Post @ Volokh] 2002 Sotomayor decision in Pappas v. Giuliani may be on point [Popehat, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and comments [CNN, Post @ Volokh] 2002 Sotomayor decision in Pappas v. Giuliani may be on point [Popehat, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jack fate</title>
		<link>http://www.popehat.com/2009/07/16/this-looks-like-a-job-for-sonia-sotomayor/comment-page-1/#comment-36121</link>
		<dc:creator>jack fate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;finest&quot; of Buffalo, NY.

http://theleftyline.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The "finest" of Buffalo, NY.</p>
<p><a href="http://theleftyline.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://theleftyline.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that&#039;s the case Jim, if no one is reading or posting to the site from work, the Plaintiff has an uphill battle indeed.  As I said, I&#039;ve read the forum, as well as the complaint (copy of which is uploaded above), and found nothing approaching what justified speech infringement in the Pappas case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that's the case Jim, if no one is reading or posting to the site from work, the Plaintiff has an uphill battle indeed.  As I said, I've read the forum, as well as the complaint (copy of which is uploaded above), and found nothing approaching what justified speech infringement in the Pappas case.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a Philly PD officer I can tell you that internet access is restriced in our Districts.  Our Detective&#039;s don&#039;t even have an e-mail account.  I believe internet access is only granted to supervisors and above.  I don&#039;t know anywhere in my district that I could just log onto a computer terminal and just browse the internet.  I&#039;ve been with the dept going on 10 years now.  The only way officers could log onto the site while at work would be via Cell Phone not dept computers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a Philly PD officer I can tell you that internet access is restriced in our Districts.  Our Detective's don't even have an e-mail account.  I believe internet access is only granted to supervisors and above.  I don't know anywhere in my district that I could just log onto a computer terminal and just browse the internet.  I've been with the dept going on 10 years now.  The only way officers could log onto the site while at work would be via Cell Phone not dept computers.</p>
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		<title>By: Linus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The “on or off the clock” distinction is likely to be the most important one in this case Charles. Consider that the basis of the complaint is an allegedly hostile work environment.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Do you mean &quot;on or off the clock&quot; when the offenders post something? Or &quot;on or off the clock&quot; when the victims read the site? It seems to me that it doesn&#039;t matter when they &lt;strong&gt;post&lt;/strong&gt; the offending material (on or off the clock) if the question is &quot;hostile work environment&quot;. The question will be, how does reading a website at home create a hostile work environment at work? If the answer is, &quot;because I know who writes this nasty stuff, and then I have to go to work the next day and work with them&quot;, it hardly matters if they&#039;ve been nasty during office hours or not. For example, the court couldn&#039;t hold that posting there creates a hostile work environment, but only when the post&#039;s timestamp is during office hours.

Of course, that could lead to a ruling that, in the comfort of his own home, on his own time, and using his own property, a man may not post, anonymously, to a website, because someone may voluntarily navigate to that site and become so offended at what is written that they have a hard time at work knowing that the person who wrote the mean things may be among them. Like Pod people. It seems pretty clear from the Complaint that the plaintiffs don&#039;t know who McQ is, precisely, nor who the other posters are; otherwise, they&#039;d have identified them by name, wouldn&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The “on or off the clock” distinction is likely to be the most important one in this case Charles. Consider that the basis of the complaint is an allegedly hostile work environment.</p></blockquote>
<p> Do you mean "on or off the clock" when the offenders post something? Or "on or off the clock" when the victims read the site? It seems to me that it doesn't matter when they <strong>post</strong> the offending material (on or off the clock) if the question is "hostile work environment". The question will be, how does reading a website at home create a hostile work environment at work? If the answer is, "because I know who writes this nasty stuff, and then I have to go to work the next day and work with them", it hardly matters if they've been nasty during office hours or not. For example, the court couldn't hold that posting there creates a hostile work environment, but only when the post's timestamp is during office hours.</p>
<p>Of course, that could lead to a ruling that, in the comfort of his own home, on his own time, and using his own property, a man may not post, anonymously, to a website, because someone may voluntarily navigate to that site and become so offended at what is written that they have a hard time at work knowing that the person who wrote the mean things may be among them. Like Pod people. It seems pretty clear from the Complaint that the plaintiffs don't know who McQ is, precisely, nor who the other posters are; otherwise, they'd have identified them by name, wouldn't they?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;on or off the clock&quot; distinction is likely to be the most important one in this case Charles.  Consider that the basis of the complaint is an allegedly hostile work environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The "on or off the clock" distinction is likely to be the most important one in this case Charles.  Consider that the basis of the complaint is an allegedly hostile work environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to agree with the majority in &lt;i&gt;Pappas&lt;/i&gt;; the police are the most visible liasons between a community and the public. Much like the Board of Ed in NYC was able to fire my high school physics teacher &lt;a href=&quot;http://altlaw.org/v1/cases/1126736&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;for being an officer of NAMBLA&lt;/a&gt; and the NYFD was able to oust firefighters &lt;a href=&quot;http://vlex.com/vid/locurto-v-giuliani-20500566&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;who entered a racist float into a community parade&lt;/a&gt;, a cop posting racist messages is more than an embarrassment to the City. It is a signal that the City doesn&#039;t care about racism and, by extension, the targeted group.

My problem with the Bilal suit is the breadth of the relief sought. There is a difference from permitting Philly cops to post racist thoughts on Domelight (on or off the clock) and permitting them to post on Domelight &lt;i&gt;at all&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to agree with the majority in <i>Pappas</i>; the police are the most visible liasons between a community and the public. Much like the Board of Ed in NYC was able to fire my high school physics teacher <a href="http://altlaw.org/v1/cases/1126736" rel="nofollow">for being an officer of NAMBLA</a> and the NYFD was able to oust firefighters <a href="http://vlex.com/vid/locurto-v-giuliani-20500566" rel="nofollow">who entered a racist float into a community parade</a>, a cop posting racist messages is more than an embarrassment to the City. It is a signal that the City doesn't care about racism and, by extension, the targeted group.</p>
<p>My problem with the Bilal suit is the breadth of the relief sought. There is a difference from permitting Philly cops to post racist thoughts on Domelight (on or off the clock) and permitting them to post on Domelight <i>at all</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: jdub</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think the folks at Domelights will appreciate her if that day comes?

Don&#039;t hold your breath on either count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think the folks at Domelights will appreciate her if that day comes?</p>
<p>Don't hold your breath on either count.</p>
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