Comments on: No Justice For Savana Redding, But At Least They Can't Do It To Your Kids http://www.popehat.com/2009/06/25/no-justice-for-savana-redding-but-at-least-they-cant-do-it-to-your-kids/ A Group Complaint about Law, Liberty, and Leisure Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:39:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Blawg Review #218 | http://www.popehat.com/2009/06/25/no-justice-for-savana-redding-but-at-least-they-cant-do-it-to-your-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-34102 Blawg Review #218 | Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:18:14 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=4942#comment-34102 [...] Examples of failed leadership are much easier to find.  Did it really require a decision by the Supreme Court to determine that a 13-year-old can’t be stripped searched?  Her suspected crime?  Having Ibuprofen on her person in violation of a “zero” tolerance no drug policy. [...] [...] Examples of failed leadership are much easier to find.  Did it really require a decision by the Supreme Court to determine that a 13-year-old can't be stripped searched?  Her suspected crime?  Having Ibuprofen on her person in violation of a "zero" tolerance no drug policy. [...]

]]> By: Weekly Web Watch 06/22/09 – 06/28/09 « EXECUTIVE WATCH http://www.popehat.com/2009/06/25/no-justice-for-savana-redding-but-at-least-they-cant-do-it-to-your-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-34086 Weekly Web Watch 06/22/09 – 06/28/09 « EXECUTIVE WATCH Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:41:58 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=4942#comment-34086 [...] the violation.  Ed Whelan has the rundown.  Patrick at Popehat summarizes the decision as “No justice for Savannah Redding, but at least they can’t do it to your kids.”  Publius at Obsidian Wings has a more upbeat take, arguing that qualified immunity is [...] [...] the violation.  Ed Whelan has the rundown.  Patrick at Popehat summarizes the decision as “No justice for Savannah Redding, but at least they can’t do it to your kids.”  Publius at Obsidian Wings has a more upbeat take, arguing that qualified immunity is [...]

]]> By: Greg http://www.popehat.com/2009/06/25/no-justice-for-savana-redding-but-at-least-they-cant-do-it-to-your-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-33781 Greg Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:44:06 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=4942#comment-33781 Re: "Of course, for everyone else the maxim that ignorance of the law is no excuse stands, but in this case Redding’s assailants get a pass." Well, of course. The principle that ignorance of the law is no excuse only applies to private citizens, whom we very reasonably expect to have a lawyer-level expertise in every aspect of every law on the books. Public servants, on the other hand, cannot possibly be expected to be cognizant of the laws that apply to them in their professional capacity. Re: "Of course, for everyone else the maxim that ignorance of the law is no excuse stands, but in this case Redding’s assailants get a pass."

Well, of course. The principle that ignorance of the law is no excuse only applies to private citizens, whom we very reasonably expect to have a lawyer-level expertise in every aspect of every law on the books. Public servants, on the other hand, cannot possibly be expected to be cognizant of the laws that apply to them in their professional capacity.

]]> By: David Schwartz http://www.popehat.com/2009/06/25/no-justice-for-savana-redding-but-at-least-they-cant-do-it-to-your-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-33714 David Schwartz Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:11:40 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=4942#comment-33714 Your honors, this search falls under the drugs exception to the fourth amendment. It's an emanation from a penumbra. Your honors, this search falls under the drugs exception to the fourth amendment. It's an emanation from a penumbra.

]]> By: Charles http://www.popehat.com/2009/06/25/no-justice-for-savana-redding-but-at-least-they-cant-do-it-to-your-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-33617 Charles Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:15:11 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=4942#comment-33617 The thing I find most striking about the 9th Circuit decision is the tone of the dissent. As opposed to Thomas, who doesn't seem like he'd mind if random strip searches were used in conjunction with metal detectors as kids entered the building, the <i>en banc</i> dissent at least seems sympathetic to the Savana Reddings of the world, even if they have an exaggerated sense of fear at the dangers of ibuprofen. The thing I find most striking about the 9th Circuit decision is the tone of the dissent. As opposed to Thomas, who doesn't seem like he'd mind if random strip searches were used in conjunction with metal detectors as kids entered the building, the en banc dissent at least seems sympathetic to the Savana Reddings of the world, even if they have an exaggerated sense of fear at the dangers of ibuprofen.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.popehat.com/2009/06/25/no-justice-for-savana-redding-but-at-least-they-cant-do-it-to-your-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-33611 Patrick Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:26:22 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=4942#comment-33611 Go back and read the Ninth's en banc decision, if you want a compelling factual narrative. It's linked at the earlier post. Go back and read the Ninth's en banc decision, if you want a compelling factual narrative. It's linked at the earlier post.

]]> By: Charles http://www.popehat.com/2009/06/25/no-justice-for-savana-redding-but-at-least-they-cant-do-it-to-your-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-33609 Charles Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:19:58 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=4942#comment-33609 Redding isn't wholly without remedy yet; the case was remanded for an examination of the liability of the school district. The factual recitation is pretty interesting, actually, and made me a lot more sympathetic to the Vice-Principal's decision than I expected to be. Not as sympathetic as Justice Thomas, mind you, but more than Justices Ginsburg and Stevens. Redding isn't wholly without remedy yet; the case was remanded for an examination of the liability of the school district. The factual recitation is pretty interesting, actually, and made me a lot more sympathetic to the Vice-Principal's decision than I expected to be. Not as sympathetic as Justice Thomas, mind you, but more than Justices Ginsburg and Stevens.

]]> By: Ken http://www.popehat.com/2009/06/25/no-justice-for-savana-redding-but-at-least-they-cant-do-it-to-your-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-33601 Ken Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:11:17 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=4942#comment-33601 In a more just world, Kerry Wilson, Helen Romero, and Peggy Schwallier would be registered sex offenders now. In a more just world, Kerry Wilson, Helen Romero, and Peggy Schwallier would be registered sex offenders now.

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