Comments on: Frankish Language http://www.popehat.com/2009/01/29/frankish-language/ A Group Complaint about Law, Liberty, and Leisure Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:39:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: dhon http://www.popehat.com/2009/01/29/frankish-language/comment-page-1/#comment-36623 dhon Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:30:48 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=2935#comment-36623 You can read a couple of chapters of the real thing -- IN Globish -- from the new book <i>Globish The World Over</i> now at http://www.globish.com or read reviews at http://izibook.eyrolles.com/9782212865424/Globish+The+World+Over You can read a couple of chapters of the real thing — IN Globish — from the new book Globish The World Over now at http://www.globish.com or read reviews at http://izibook.eyrolles.com/9782212865424/Globish+The+World+Over

]]> By: Brian Dunbar http://www.popehat.com/2009/01/29/frankish-language/comment-page-1/#comment-22431 Brian Dunbar Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:05:45 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=2935#comment-22431 From Wiki <i>Esperanto has had continuous usage by a community estimated at between 100,000 and 2 million speakers for over a century,</i> Pshaw. I'll bet there are far, far more people fluent in Ruby or PERL than Esperanto. Granted, it's hard to <b>speak</b> in PERL but if you want an artificial language that is useful, grab an O'Reilly book and dig in. From Wiki

Esperanto has had continuous usage by a community estimated at between 100,000 and 2 million speakers for over a century,

Pshaw. I'll bet there are far, far more people fluent in Ruby or PERL than Esperanto.

Granted, it's hard to speak in PERL but if you want an artificial language that is useful, grab an O'Reilly book and dig in.

]]> By: Pagan Temple http://www.popehat.com/2009/01/29/frankish-language/comment-page-1/#comment-22419 Pagan Temple Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:17:09 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=2935#comment-22419 "On the other hand, perhaps Globish will never be necessary. Litigation, hate and harassing speech laws, nannystatism, government bullying, and political correctness will get us the Globish we deserve soon enough." Now that's a good point, I didn't even think of that, and PC nonsense is one of my pet peeves at that. "On the other hand, perhaps Globish will never be necessary. Litigation, hate and harassing speech laws, nannystatism, government bullying, and political correctness will get us the Globish we deserve soon enough."

Now that's a good point, I didn't even think of that, and PC nonsense is one of my pet peeves at that.

]]> By: Brian Dunbar http://www.popehat.com/2009/01/29/frankish-language/comment-page-1/#comment-22416 Brian Dunbar Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:06:42 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=2935#comment-22416 <i>I wondered whether this post would draw out the Esperanto cops.</i> The other one should be along in a few minutes ... I wondered whether this post would draw out the Esperanto cops.

The other one should be along in a few minutes …

]]> By: Patrick http://www.popehat.com/2009/01/29/frankish-language/comment-page-1/#comment-22405 Patrick Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:01:22 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=2935#comment-22405 I wondered whether this post would draw out the Esperanto cops. I wondered whether this post would draw out the Esperanto cops.

]]> By: mankso http://www.popehat.com/2009/01/29/frankish-language/comment-page-1/#comment-22397 mankso Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:49:08 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=2935#comment-22397 >But where past attempts at a linqua franca for business and simple communications, such as Esperanto and Interlingua, failed or never made it beyond hobbyists, Globish may succeed. One wonders just how many World Esperanto Congresses you have attended: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Esperanto_Congress" how many daily Esperanto broadcasts you have listened to (Radio Polonia, Radio China International, Radio Vaticana), how many of the thousands of books in Esperanto you have ever seen, and whether you have actually heard of anyone who speaks Globish (which Nerrière originally proposed as a joke)? And re Ken's urban legend: >The usual quote is from a 1996 issue of Wired magazine: "All the fluent Klingon speakers can comfortably go out to dinner together." Although many have attempted to learn it, there are actually few really fluent speakers. Some of the points to address in discussing 'universal bilingualism' and Esperanto are contained in the Prague Manifesto: http://lingvo.org >But where past attempts at a linqua franca for business and simple communications, such as Esperanto and Interlingua, failed or never made it beyond hobbyists, Globish may succeed.

One wonders just how many World Esperanto Congresses you have attended:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Esperanto_Congress"
how many daily Esperanto broadcasts you have listened to (Radio Polonia, Radio China International, Radio Vaticana), how many of the thousands of books in Esperanto you have ever seen, and whether you have actually heard of anyone who speaks Globish (which Nerrière originally proposed as a joke)?

And re Ken's urban legend:
>The usual quote is from a 1996 issue of Wired magazine: "All the
fluent Klingon speakers can comfortably go out to dinner together."
Although many have attempted to learn it, there are actually few really fluent speakers.

Some of the points to address in discussing 'universal bilingualism' and Esperanto are contained in the Prague Manifesto:
http://lingvo.org

]]> By: Brian Dunbar http://www.popehat.com/2009/01/29/frankish-language/comment-page-1/#comment-22383 Brian Dunbar Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:10:44 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=2935#comment-22383 I have learned that when I am emailing a line supervisor in Penang or Xiamen that writing 'System X is in service, our apologies for the disruption' is enough. Humor that works when writing her counterpart in Wisconsin or Idaho will have odd results outside the United States. That or my humor isn't really very funny. I have learned that when I am emailing a line supervisor in Penang or Xiamen that writing 'System X is in service, our apologies for the disruption' is enough. Humor that works when writing her counterpart in Wisconsin or Idaho will have odd results outside the United States.

That or my humor isn't really very funny.

]]> By: Ken http://www.popehat.com/2009/01/29/frankish-language/comment-page-1/#comment-22376 Ken Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:28:02 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=2935#comment-22376 I seem to recall reading that there are more fluent Klingon speakers than Esperanto speakers, but that may be an urban legend. I seem to recall reading that there are more fluent Klingon speakers than Esperanto speakers, but that may be an urban legend.

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