Comments on: Hell Hath No Fury Like A Captain Scorned

By: Tim Adams

Tim Adams — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:56:08 +0000

She may actually be in violation of several articles of the UCMJ for trying to use her military postion for personal gain and poltical activites.

And since she is retired, she can be held subject to the UCMJ and punished as such.

make sure you post up how this goes. I will be happy to refer her to the USN JAG office as well as the DOD IG office.

By: February 1 roundup

February 1 roundup — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 06:04:26 +0000

[...] A "retired Reserve captain is threatening to sue her local California school board if the board’s members do not address her by her military title" [Navy Times, Popehat] [...]

By: PO2 Gonz

PO2 Gonz — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:25:09 +0000

Typical behavior for someone who very likely sat on her ass all day long but was promoted on the merits of being perhaps the first female in her command to do so!
I have been in the military for 12 years and have seen it too many times.
Noreen get over it and go enjoy your retirement in peace!!! Also, don't forget that you are NO LONGER in the military and that NO civilian is required under any law or regulation to call you by your rank. Ms. Considine is considered more that appropriate but that might change if you continue with this nonsense, it might chance to Ms. Egosidine!
There are far more serious problems with our education system and education!

By: BradK

BradK — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:59:35 +0000

Would "Crustee" be considered actionable?

By: alphanitrate

alphanitrate — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:58:27 +0000

As a member of the Order of the Jedi, I would require her to refer to me with my rank of MASTER. She agrees – I'll use Kaptain Kangaroo's rank in kind.

By: Seaman Recruit Doe

Seaman Recruit Doe — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:37:28 +0000

Noreen,

First off nothing in Title 10 says that only at the O-6 and above grades are titles conferred by Congress. The service recommends all Officer's to the President who then by signature nominates them to the Senate for confirmation. Your title of Captain has no greater "congressional" standing than does Ensign Doe.

Give it a rest Noreen and apologize to your constituents for being an ass.

By: Clint

Clint — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:12:15 +0000

She sounds like a tool, but she has a great Star Wars name. Frankly, I don't think I could talk to her without subconsciously trying to channel James Earl Jones.

"Captain Considine, you have failed our children for the last time!"
/Vader

By: Larry Sheldon

Larry Sheldon — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:02:15 +0000

'I could say “Captain Considine” and make it sound a thousand times more disrespectful than “Trustee Considine”' My father's father was a high school teacher and some-time high school principal and a towering impressive man. He was called on the carpet by the Board of Education because he "allowed his students to be disrespectful". His answer was just as above--the kids that called him "Pops" showed him more respect than some of the board members did calling him "Mr. Sheldon". And on anther item back up thread....among the things I am not is parliamentary lawyer, but I have served on a number of boards and such over the years. It is my understanding that parliamentary law generally requires that members of a body must speak only to the chair (or at least sound like that is what they are doing) and must refer to others on the same body in the third person, using a reference relative to the body in question. So it would seem to me that she should be referred-to as "the Trustee [from X]", never in the first person at all.

By: Derrick

Derrick — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:44:13 +0000

I could say "Captain Considine" and make it sound a thousand times more disrespectful than "Trustee Considine"

By: David

David — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:10:30 +0000

The literary device in which a speaker directly addresses some abstraction or absent person is known as "apostrophe". Isn't that interesting?

By: OSCS(SW)Joseph Bellotti, RET

OSCS(SW)Joseph Bellotti, RET — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:58:55 +0000

Wow, kind of sick actually! Well NOREEN, do you want to attack my retired (ACTIVE) Navy pay for not calling you by your rank? DON'T direspect those who are serving today by bringing this "trivial" crap to the court and media. I think those who voted you in should hold a "recall" so you can retire to "somewhere" where everyone calls each other by their rank. Speaking of RANK....

By: Transplanted Lawyer

Transplanted Lawyer — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:40:34 +0000

Referring to her as "Trustee Considine" is entirely appropriate when she is acting as a Trustee of the School District. I represent some public entities and the members of the boards of directors of those entities refer to one another as "Director so-and-so" or "Vice President thus-and-such" when they are deliberating in session. Some of the members of these boards are doctors of one kind or another and there's a group that jealously guards the prerogative of their titles, and even the doctors submit to being re-titled "Director" while fulfilling their jobs. So Cap'n Considine (USNR, Ret.> needs to get over herself.

By: David

David — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:24:48 +0000

Rancor's aweigh!

By: Larry Sheldon

Larry Sheldon — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:11:31 +0000

Tagged "asshats" and "California".

New spelling vs. old spelling, or something?

By: Brian Dunbar

Brian Dunbar — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:01:14 +0000

Any member of the military is required by regulations to refer to any civilian as “Sir” or “Ma’am” while in uniform

Hunh – I broke that regulation big time in 1991 when a bouncer kept me out of a club in West Palm Beach because I was wearing dress blues.