Comments on: First They Came For The … Mmmmm … Donuts. http://www.popehat.com/2008/05/28/first-they-came-for-the-mmmmm-donuts/ A Group Complaint about Law, Liberty, and Leisure Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:39:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: betty http://www.popehat.com/2008/05/28/first-they-came-for-the-mmmmm-donuts/comment-page-1/#comment-4053 betty Fri, 30 May 2008 06:08:10 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=1080#comment-4053 While I agree this is ridiculous because her scarf looks simply like a scarf, I'd like to play the devil's advocate. We must remember symbols have always represented an important part of all cultures throughout time. Had Rachel Ray worn a swastika arm band or white hood the world would have been appalled. I am amazed that certain forms of dress have become en vogue. As an expatriate from the U.S. it disturbs me that we can be so insensitive especially after 911 and I can only attribute this to ignorance. For many of us living elsewhere in the world, we see up close what these symbols represent. These organizations and governments actively support the suppression of women, the banning of freedom of religion and speech, and the tacit acceptance of violence against innocent human beings all in the name of a cause or belief. Have we become so P.C. that we refuse to tell the truth or are we somehow hoping that our own human/democratic values are also shared by all? Read, listen and observe. Actions always speak louder than words. Remember, symbols are powerful messages! While I agree this is ridiculous because her scarf looks simply like a scarf, I'd like to play the devil's advocate. We must remember symbols have always represented an important part of all cultures throughout time. Had Rachel Ray worn a swastika arm band or white hood the world would have been appalled. I am amazed that certain forms of dress have become en vogue. As an expatriate from the U.S. it disturbs me that we can be so insensitive especially after 911 and I can only attribute this to ignorance. For many of us living elsewhere in the world, we see up close what these symbols represent. These organizations and governments actively support the suppression of women, the banning of freedom of religion and speech, and the tacit acceptance of violence against innocent human beings all in the name of a cause or belief. Have we become so P.C. that we refuse to tell the truth or are we somehow hoping that our own human/democratic values are also shared by all? Read, listen and observe. Actions always speak louder than words. Remember, symbols are powerful messages!

]]> By: Ken http://www.popehat.com/2008/05/28/first-they-came-for-the-mmmmm-donuts/comment-page-1/#comment-4032 Ken Thu, 29 May 2008 18:44:13 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=1080#comment-4032 <a href="http://armsandinfluence.typepad.com/armsandinfluence/2008/05/pants-against-n.html" rel="nofollow">Nazis wore pants.</a> Nazis wore pants.

]]> By: Michael http://www.popehat.com/2008/05/28/first-they-came-for-the-mmmmm-donuts/comment-page-1/#comment-4004 Michael Wed, 28 May 2008 22:12:27 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=1080#comment-4004 So what does Michele wear to warm her neck when it gets chilly? So what does Michele wear to warm her neck when it gets chilly?

]]> By: Brandon http://www.popehat.com/2008/05/28/first-they-came-for-the-mmmmm-donuts/comment-page-1/#comment-4001 Brandon Wed, 28 May 2008 19:40:59 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=1080#comment-4001 I know I'm a touch off topic here, but comparing the two above photos has led me to an inescapable conclusion: Rachel Ray's credibility as a chef and celebrity would skyrocket if she were to lay a holstered micro-uzi on a trivet during her show. You know, just for the affectation... :) I know I'm a touch off topic here, but comparing the two above photos has led me to an inescapable conclusion: Rachel Ray's credibility as a chef and celebrity would skyrocket if she were to lay a holstered micro-uzi on a trivet during her show.

You know, just for the affectation… :)

]]> By: Jag http://www.popehat.com/2008/05/28/first-they-came-for-the-mmmmm-donuts/comment-page-1/#comment-4000 Jag Wed, 28 May 2008 19:37:48 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=1080#comment-4000 Crap, just when DD had switched to .99 cent ice coffees and free ice coffee Thursdays just a few feet from my office. Why did it have to be terrorists? Damn you Dunkin Donuts, damn you to hell! Crap, just when DD had switched to .99 cent ice coffees and free ice coffee Thursdays just a few feet from my office. Why did it have to be terrorists? Damn you Dunkin Donuts, damn you to hell!

]]> By: tgb http://www.popehat.com/2008/05/28/first-they-came-for-the-mmmmm-donuts/comment-page-1/#comment-3999 tgb Wed, 28 May 2008 18:26:24 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=1080#comment-3999 Looks more like a talis to me. Thank god the ZOG puppets that control the media have been stopped in yet another of their efforts to promote Zionism and the international Jew conspiracy. What's Ray short for, anyway? Rayberg? Raystein? Rayowitz? Looks more like a talis to me. Thank god the ZOG puppets that control the media have been stopped in yet another of their efforts to promote Zionism and the international Jew conspiracy.

What's Ray short for, anyway? Rayberg? Raystein? Rayowitz?

]]> By: Bob http://www.popehat.com/2008/05/28/first-they-came-for-the-mmmmm-donuts/comment-page-1/#comment-3998 Bob Wed, 28 May 2008 18:07:56 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=1080#comment-3998 Are all black and white scarves to be banned then? I need to know these rules. I'm afraid that my wardrobe may be a clear and imminent danger to the safety of the United States of America. Are all black and white scarves to be banned then? I need to know these rules. I'm afraid that my wardrobe may be a clear and imminent danger to the safety of the United States of America.

]]> By: Dave http://www.popehat.com/2008/05/28/first-they-came-for-the-mmmmm-donuts/comment-page-1/#comment-3996 Dave Wed, 28 May 2008 17:57:40 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=1080#comment-3996 Patrick, you'd choose Krispy Kreme over Dunkin' Donuts anyways, as KK is a proud Southern product. Patrick, you'd choose Krispy Kreme over Dunkin' Donuts anyways, as KK is a proud Southern product.

]]> By: Ken http://www.popehat.com/2008/05/28/first-they-came-for-the-mmmmm-donuts/comment-page-1/#comment-3995 Ken Wed, 28 May 2008 16:29:19 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=1080#comment-3995 By the way, I have to say I'm sympathetic to Dunkin' Donuts here. Sure, you could see it as them caving to freakshow bullying. But they're not in the business of practicing politics or of standing of up bullies. They sell donuts. So when a raving lunatic with a history of harassing thoughtcriminals and posting people's personal information calls them out on something, backed by a vast army of winged poo-throwing monkeys, it's a rational business decision for them to speak soothingly and say "yes, yes ... we're very sorry about the scary .....uh....scarf." By the way, I have to say I'm sympathetic to Dunkin' Donuts here. Sure, you could see it as them caving to freakshow bullying. But they're not in the business of practicing politics or of standing of up bullies. They sell donuts. So when a raving lunatic with a history of harassing thoughtcriminals and posting people's personal information calls them out on something, backed by a vast army of winged poo-throwing monkeys, it's a rational business decision for them to speak soothingly and say "yes, yes … we're very sorry about the scary …..uh….scarf."

]]> By: Ken http://www.popehat.com/2008/05/28/first-they-came-for-the-mmmmm-donuts/comment-page-1/#comment-3993 Ken Wed, 28 May 2008 16:13:43 +0000 http://www.popehat.com/?p=1080#comment-3993 In a follow-up post, <a href="http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/28/the-keffiyeh-kerfuffle/" rel="nofollow">Malkin shows how deranged she really is:</a> <blockquote>It’s refreshing to see an American company show sensitivity to the concerns of Americans opposed to Islamic jihad and its apologists. Too many of them bend over backwards in the direction of anti-American political correctness. Naturally, liberal commentators on the Internet are now up in arms over Dunkin Donut’s decision to yank the ad and mock anyone who expresses concern over the keffiyeh’s symbolism. It’s just a scarf, the clueless keffiyeh-wearers scoff. Would they say the same of fashion designers who marketed modified Klan-style hoods in Burberry plaid as the next big thing? Fashion statements may seem insignificant, but when they lead to the mainstreaming of violence—unintentionally or not–they matter. Ignorance is no longer an excuse. In post-9/11 America, vigilance must never go out of style.</blockquote> So, in other words, post 9/11 right thinking requires vigilance against clothes which, to Michele Malkin, resemble clothes associated with bad people -- never mind that the clothes are not the same. Because if I wear a white hoodie sweatshirt, and some nutball sees a picture of me and thinks that the hoodie evokes Klan hoods, that normalizes violence. Good God. In a follow-up post, Malkin shows how deranged she really is:

It’s refreshing to see an American company show sensitivity to the concerns of Americans opposed to Islamic jihad and its apologists. Too many of them bend over backwards in the direction of anti-American political correctness. Naturally, liberal commentators on the Internet are now up in arms over Dunkin Donut’s decision to yank the ad and mock anyone who expresses concern over the keffiyeh’s symbolism.

It’s just a scarf, the clueless keffiyeh-wearers scoff. Would they say the same of fashion designers who marketed modified Klan-style hoods in Burberry plaid as the next big thing? Fashion statements may seem insignificant, but when they lead to the mainstreaming of violence—unintentionally or not–they matter. Ignorance is no longer an excuse. In post-9/11 America, vigilance must never go out of style.

So, in other words, post 9/11 right thinking requires vigilance against clothes which, to Michele Malkin, resemble clothes associated with bad people — never mind that the clothes are not the same. Because if I wear a white hoodie sweatshirt, and some nutball sees a picture of me and thinks that the hoodie evokes Klan hoods, that normalizes violence.

Good God.

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