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	<title>Comments on: California Supreme Court Rules That California&#039;s Ban On Gay Marriage Is Unconstitutional</title>
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	<description>A Group Complaint about Law, Liberty, and Leisure</description>
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		<title>By: Kern County Clerk Ann K. Barnett Takes Cowardly and Dishonest Path In Claiming Neutral Reason For Stopping All County Clerk Marriages &#124; Popehat</title>
		<link>http://www.popehat.com/2008/05/15/california-supreme-court-rules-on-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-4479</link>
		<dc:creator>Kern County Clerk Ann K. Barnett Takes Cowardly and Dishonest Path In Claiming Neutral Reason For Stopping All County Clerk Marriages &#124; Popehat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a result of the California Supreme Court&#8217;s decision striking down the state&#8217;s ban on same-sex marriages, same-sex marriages will be legal &#8212; and will begin &#8212; next [...]</description>
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		<title>By: why facially neutral antidiscrimination laws survive most religion based challenges &#124; Popehat</title>
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		<dc:creator>why facially neutral antidiscrimination laws survive most religion based challenges &#124; Popehat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] California Supreme Court &#8212; fresh from their ruling striking down California&#8217;s gay marriage ban &#8212; heard argument yesterday on whether the state could enforce its anti-discrimination laws to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;To see some stereotypical social conservatives braying about the parade of polygamy, child molestation, and bestiality that they believe will follow, check out the comments on Malkin.
&lt;/em&gt;
To see a more thoughtful person noting (without directly saying so) the same possibility, check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_05_11-2008_05_17.shtml#1210877596&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Eugene Volokh&lt;/a&gt;.

It is fair to say that this decision is a direct descendant of Loving v. Virginia, and that this outcome was one of those predicted by opponents of Loving at the time.  As to polygamy, though not child molestation or bestiality, I honestly don&#039;t think it&#039;s such a stretch to say that in a couple of decades some walls might crack.

I support the result of this holding as you know, but dismissing anyone who argues the slippery slope as a mouthbreather is a bit unfair, not that Ms. Malkin&#039;s site doesn&#039;t draw its share of those characters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>To see some stereotypical social conservatives braying about the parade of polygamy, child molestation, and bestiality that they believe will follow, check out the comments on Malkin.<br />
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To see a more thoughtful person noting (without directly saying so) the same possibility, check out <a href="http://www.volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_05_11-2008_05_17.shtml#1210877596" rel="nofollow">Eugene Volokh</a>.</p>
<p>It is fair to say that this decision is a direct descendant of Loving v. Virginia, and that this outcome was one of those predicted by opponents of Loving at the time.  As to polygamy, though not child molestation or bestiality, I honestly don't think it's such a stretch to say that in a couple of decades some walls might crack.</p>
<p>I support the result of this holding as you know, but dismissing anyone who argues the slippery slope as a mouthbreather is a bit unfair, not that Ms. Malkin's site doesn't draw its share of those characters.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved the following passage from the opinion:

&quot;We need not decide in this case whether the name “marriage” is invariably a core element of the state constitutional right to marry so that the state would violate a couple’s constitutional right even if — perhaps in order to emphasize and clarify that this civil institution is distinct from the religious institution of marriage — the state were to assign a name other than marriage as the official designation of the formal family relationship for all couples.&quot;

The analysis is so plain.  If you want to differentiate between straight and gay marriage, be our guest, but keep the state out of it.  

To the state, family status will be Unionized, Non-Union, or single.  

QED :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved the following passage from the opinion:</p>
<p>"We need not decide in this case whether the name “marriage” is invariably a core element of the state constitutional right to marry so that the state would violate a couple’s constitutional right even if — perhaps in order to emphasize and clarify that this civil institution is distinct from the religious institution of marriage — the state were to assign a name other than marriage as the official designation of the formal family relationship for all couples."</p>
<p>The analysis is so plain.  If you want to differentiate between straight and gay marriage, be our guest, but keep the state out of it.  </p>
<p>To the state, family status will be Unionized, Non-Union, or single.  </p>
<p>QED <img src='http://www.popehat.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You fascist.  You mean I can&#039;t mention the 1L musical my law school did where my friend sang &quot;I just got a job with Scalia&quot; to the tune of &quot;I just met a girl named Maria&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You fascist.  You mean I can't mention the 1L musical my law school did where my friend sang "I just got a job with Scalia" to the tune of "I just met a girl named Maria"?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just peeking at it myself, and thanks for hosting this Ken.  The first thing I looked for was whether this holding was under the California constitution or it was an interpretation of the United States constitution.

It appears to be the first, which means, for the many federalists who read this site, that the holding is almost certainly not subject to reversal by the United States Supreme Court, as the California court is the final interpreter of the state&#039;s constitution, barring amendment.  Of course I&#039;m still not sure what the opinion actually says.

For the time being, however, this is not an appropriate place to discuss one&#039;s feelings about Antonin Scalia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just peeking at it myself, and thanks for hosting this Ken.  The first thing I looked for was whether this holding was under the California constitution or it was an interpretation of the United States constitution.</p>
<p>It appears to be the first, which means, for the many federalists who read this site, that the holding is almost certainly not subject to reversal by the United States Supreme Court, as the California court is the final interpreter of the state's constitution, barring amendment.  Of course I'm still not sure what the opinion actually says.</p>
<p>For the time being, however, this is not an appropriate place to discuss one's feelings about Antonin Scalia.</p>
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