Comments on: Still Guilty After All These Years http://www.popehat.com/2008/03/27/still-guilty-after-all-these-years/ A Group Complaint about Law, Liberty, and Leisure Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:03:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Patrick http://www.popehat.com/2008/03/27/still-guilty-after-all-these-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2006 Patrick Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:16:54 +0000 http://www.newpopehat.dreamhosters.com/2008/03/27/still-guilty-after-all-these-years/#comment-2006 As I understand it Ken, it would restart the chain, and Jamal would of course also have his state appellate rights for the penalty hearing. So he'll likely just rot, even with the accelerated habeas process under AEDPA. As I understand it Ken, it would restart the chain, and Jamal would of course also have his state appellate rights for the penalty hearing. So he’ll likely just rot, even with the accelerated habeas process under AEDPA.

]]> By: Ken http://www.popehat.com/2008/03/27/still-guilty-after-all-these-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2003 Ken Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:55:03 +0000 http://www.newpopehat.dreamhosters.com/2008/03/27/still-guilty-after-all-these-years/#comment-2003 I thought the French bit was a rhetorical flourish until I saw that those asswipes in Paris named a street after him. Good Lord. Hmmm. I'm not current enough on the state-conviction provisions of the AEDPA to answer this question: if they determine to retry him, and get the DP again, does that reset the process from scratch, at least as far as the penalty phase goes? That would push off the reaper a good 20 years, I'd think. I thought the French bit was a rhetorical flourish until I saw that those asswipes in Paris named a street after him. Good Lord.

Hmmm. I’m not current enough on the state-conviction provisions of the AEDPA to answer this question: if they determine to retry him, and get the DP again, does that reset the process from scratch, at least as far as the penalty phase goes? That would push off the reaper a good 20 years, I’d think.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.popehat.com/2008/03/27/still-guilty-after-all-these-years/comment-page-1/#comment-1996 Patrick Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:38:17 +0000 http://www.newpopehat.dreamhosters.com/2008/03/27/still-guilty-after-all-these-years/#comment-1996 Ezra we're on the same side. While I appreciate the justice of the death penalty (as in, an eye for an eye is truly just) I oppose it because it's permanent, it's final, and man, unlike the Popehat, is fallible. I can't accept the potential of infinite injustice that the death penalty wreaks on the wrongly accused. As a lawyer, I'm quite conscious of the fallibility of jurors (and still prefer them to judges as ultimate deciders). As a southerner, I'm just as conscious of where human fallibility can lead. In Mumia's case, I have not a doubt, so I'm glad he'll rot. But I'm with you on the death penalty. Ezra we’re on the same side. While I appreciate the justice of the death penalty (as in, an eye for an eye is truly just) I oppose it because it’s permanent, it’s final, and man, unlike the Popehat, is fallible. I can’t accept the potential of infinite injustice that the death penalty wreaks on the wrongly accused.

As a lawyer, I’m quite conscious of the fallibility of jurors (and still prefer them to judges as ultimate deciders). As a southerner, I’m just as conscious of where human fallibility can lead.

In Mumia’s case, I have not a doubt, so I’m glad he’ll rot. But I’m with you on the death penalty.

]]> By: Ezra http://www.popehat.com/2008/03/27/still-guilty-after-all-these-years/comment-page-1/#comment-1995 Ezra Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:28:24 +0000 http://www.newpopehat.dreamhosters.com/2008/03/27/still-guilty-after-all-these-years/#comment-1995 I don't think I've ever been a free Mumia guy. He did commit a crime, and he should be punished. Now, I have protested the death penalty (and the really sick racial divide in death penalty sentences) in general and also in response to this case. The death penalty is wrong, and has no place in any sort of justice system. I don’t think I’ve ever been a free Mumia guy. He did commit a crime, and he should be punished. Now, I have protested the death penalty (and the really sick racial divide in death penalty sentences) in general and also in response to this case. The death penalty is wrong, and has no place in any sort of justice system.

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